[Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)
Ken Volonte
kenvolonte at comcast.net
Fri Mar 27 12:19:03 PDT 2009
The concern I have with the letter ostensibly from Mary is the confusion it was meant to cause. This is a strategy on the part of the guide dog board to divide and conquer.
If this were just a question of the licensing fee, I have no problem with that so long as the board understands that its jurisdiction is limited to California schools. This is more than that. This is funneling extorted money to a specific school. If this is something else, then the bill needs to be more clear. A fee by any other name is still a tax.
This next point may sound picky, but it's relevant to the argument. The language in the original charter for the Guide Dog Board is wrong. The board was not really set up to deal with "maverick schools", It was set up to deal with fly by night trainers who were charging returning veterans to train guide dogs for them. By the way, there are still trainers who are doing this and the board doesn't seem to care. I gotta go. PS Mr. Lynes, you know exactly what this is about so be a person.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Lyens
To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)
Hi All,
I've heard through this discussion that there are people that have "concerns" about the draft letter sent. I'm wondering if examples of where those concerns are in the letter can be pointed out. I think if we have examples of people's concerns, we can have a more in depth discussion.
I am not saying how I feel about this letter, because I truly don't know. I have not had a chance to read the legislation it is in support of. But, I'd like to hear colleagues tangible concerns in order to discuss.
Respectfully,
Jonathan
Jonathan T. Lyens MPA
Email: jonathan at lyens.com
Fax: (321) 256-8896
Skype: jlyens
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From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:44 AM
To: CAGDU
Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)
Sorry for the confusion.
SHANNON L. DILLON
> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:22 -0700
> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net
> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)
>
> Hello Shannon,
> I appreciate you letting me know that.
> I was quite concerned when I saw that letter.
> Thanks,
>
> Robert Stigile
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Shannon L. Dillon" <shannonldillon at hotmail.com
> >To: CAGDU <cagdu at nfbcal.org
> >Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700
> >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)
>
>
> >Hi Robert:
>
>
>
> >No, Mary did not write the letter. Antonette, or someone from
> the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign
> onto. They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter. I
> think they must have provided that draft letter like we provide
> draft letters sometimes to people to make it easier for them to
> support something. Like the draft letter we provided in support
> of Fred Schroeder this year. Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter
> onto to me to share with CAGDU and respond to. She did not
> support the letter. She said that she has told Antonette that
> she does not think we can support the Board. I don't know why
> Mary's name is on the letter. Maybe whoever wrote the draft
> included it on there. But Mary did not write the letter
> supporting the board.
>
>
>
> >SHANNON L. DILLON
>
>
>
> >> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700
> >> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net
> >> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)
>
> >> Hello Shannon,
> >> Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that
> showed
> >> a letter from Mary in support of this bill.
> >> Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I
> >> see.
> >> Thanks,
>
> >> Robert Stigile
>
>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" <shannonldillon at hotmail.com
> >>>To: CAGDU <cagdu at nfbcal.org
> >>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700
> >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)
>
>
> >>>I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of
> >> statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we
> >> definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not
> >> support it.
>
> >>>SHANNON L. DILLON
>
>
>
> >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700
> >>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net
> >>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)
>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support
> >> this
> >>>> letter.
> >>>> I would like to know, what the rest of you think.
> >>>> Thanks,
>
> >>>> Robert Stigile
>
>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: "tina thomas " <tinadt at sbcglobal.net
> >>>>>To: <cagdu at nfbcal.org
> >>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)
>
> >>>>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave
> >>>> the board the
> >>>>>idea that NFBC would support this bill.
> >>>>>Tina
>
>
> >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your
> >>>> own instead of
> >>>>>someone else's."
> >>>>>- Billy Wilder
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>>> _____
>
> >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org]
> >>>> On Behalf
> >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon
> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM
> >>>>>To: CAGDU
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)
>
>
> >>>>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft
> >>>> letter written
> >>>>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping
> >>>> we would
> >>>>>sign on to it.
>
> >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON
>
>
>
>
> >>>>> _____
>
> >>>>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net
> >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
> >>>>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)
>
>
> >>>>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support
> >>>> by the NFBC.
> >>>>>Mary did not write this letter of support?
> >>>>>Tina
>
> >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your
> >>>> own instead of
> >>>>>someone else's."
> >>>>>- Billy Wilder
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>>> _____
>
> >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org]
> >>>> On Behalf
> >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon
> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM
> >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
> >>>>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)
>
>
> >>>>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I
> >>>> meant to be
> >>>>>included last time. Don't know what happened before....
>
> >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON
>
>
>
>
> >>>>> _____
>
> >>>>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net
> >>>>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com
> >>>>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla)
> >>>>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700
>
>
>
> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov
> >>>>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net
> >>>>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM
> >>>>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla)
>
>
> >>>>>Mary:
>
> >>>>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone
> >>>> today. The
> >>>>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment
> >>>> legislation.
> >>>>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's
> >>>> school renewal
> >>>>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill
> >>>> can be
> >>>>>accessed online at
> >>>>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475
> >>>>><http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475&sess
> >>>> =CUR&house=
> >>>>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen
>
> >>>>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along
> >>>> with an
> >>>>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you
> >>>> for your
> >>>>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend.
>
> >>>>>Antonette Sorrick
> >>>>>Executive Officer
> >>>>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind
> >>>>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202
> >>>>>Sacramento, CA 95834
> >>>>>(916) 574-7825 phone
> >>>>>(916) 574-7829 fax
> >>>>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov
> >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date:
> >>>> 03/26/09
> >>>>>07:12:00
>
>
>
>
> >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date:
> >>>> 03/26/09
> >>>>>07:12:00
>
>
>
>
>
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