[Cagdu] guide dog puppies

[Jonathan Lyens]

Ken-

Has anyone tried engaging in a formal dialogue with the district?
Perhaps a letter to the district Superintendant with copies to all 4 of
the principals of the high schools in question. This letter could
articulate what the difference between guide dog puppies and pet dogs
are. This letter could also spell out how vital this socialization is
for a dog that will soon enough be responsible for guiding in such
environments. This is particularly important as more and more schools
are moving towards providing guides to blind people at younger ages (a
point of contention worthy of a different discussion). 

I have no problem with your idea of a resolution. However, I think that
immediate engagement with the school district could yield results more
quickly. Its been my experience that most people just don't know any
different. Often times, once educated, they can be lead to a more
appropriate decision. 

Best-

Jonathan  

Jonathan T. Lyens MPA 
Email: jonathan at lyens.com 
Fax: (321) 256-8896 
Skype: jlyens 

-----Original Message-----
From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On
Behalf Of Ken Volonte
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:41 PM
To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
Subject: Re: [Cagdu] guide dog puppies

Hi Robert and all.  There is a situation in the Manteca school district
in 
which at least four high school students and a teacher have been denied 
permission to bring their puppies to school.  It didn't use to be that
way, 
but some idiot teacher brought his pet dog to school and it bit someone.

    It is important that puppies be allowed in schools for their own 
socialization.  What good does it do for a puppy to spend six hours a
day in 
a crate or kennel away from people and activities?

    Guide dog puppies are allowed in schools in Utah, Nevada and
Colorado. 
In fact, schools and businesses can't discriminate against puppies in 
training.  In Nevada, it went all the way up to the state Supreme Court.

    How could we sit on our hands while this happened!  It's not an
issue 
from long ago, and if it was, this federation should have dealt with it
head 
on.

    I'll write a resolution, but I want cagdu's word that you will
support 
me in this.  Let us take to the barricades again.  Ken
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "robert stigile" <rstigile at sbcglobal.net>
To: <cagdu at nfbcal.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Cagdu] guide dog puppies


> Hello Ken,
> Can you explain a little more?
> Yes, the puppies are not given the same rights as trained guides.
> If a business wants to tell the puppy raiser, that they do not
> want it in they have that right.
> I have not seen this take place in a long time, but it can and
> there is nothing that a puppy raiser can do.
> A long time ago, the MTA in Los Angeles wouldn't let puppy
> raisers bring the dog on the bus, but after many hours of
> explaining how it can benefit, there is not an issue now.
> You might want to consider a resolution about this, so that the
> NFBC can work to change this.
> Good luck,
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Ken Volonte" <kenvolonte at comcast.net
>>To: "Cagdu" <cagdu at nfbcal.org
>>Date sent: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:16:50 -0700
>>Subject: [Cagdu] guide dog puppies
>
>>Hi all.  We've got a situation in which guide dog puppies are not
> being
>>allowed into schools for their year's worth of socialization.
> Are the
>>puppies afforded the same protection under the law as guide dogs
> are?  It
>>seems as though they should be.  As things stand now, the dogs
> are put in
>>kennels for 6 hours a day while the raisers are at school.  This
> is nuts!
>>GDB says the puppies are not entitled to any protection at all.
> If that's
>>the case, then what's the point?
>
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