From president at nfbcal.org Mon Aug 1 06:08:20 2022 From: president at nfbcal.org (president at nfbcal.org) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2022 06:08:20 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] Banquet buffet In-Reply-To: References: <000101d8a440$1fa726e0$5ef574a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004101d8a5a7$c67caa90$5375ffb0$@nfbcal.org> Excellent idea. Tim Elder President National Federation of the Blind of California president at nfbcal.org (916) 382-0372 http://www.nfbcal.org/ Did you know that blind Californians are holding monthly meetings in your region over Zoom and telephone? Check out our virtual local chapter and division meetings. All are welcome to attend. http://www.nfbcal.org/chapters-and-divisions/ -----Original Message----- From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf Of maurice mines Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2022 12:11 PM To: NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022 ; robert stigile Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet good afternoon everyone I believe a sorority helped us out in 2019 with such things as helping to carry food and dealing with buffets etc. I think it would probably be a great idea to approach them before we approach the Lions Club. That way we work with people who might have had previous exposure to for real blind people. I'm not saying the Lions Club is bad I'm just saying that I think that we should work on wild asking for volunteer help build that relationship. Perhaps someone can look through what we did in 2019 and see just who that sorority is and see if the chapter exists at San Diego State University. I know there pretty big school so I would also be in favor of having someone look into the. I think our student division president Shelby I believe is the name that I remember might be able to look into that or maybe cricket still has some of those records. I hope this helps? Please note this is being dictated to the computer, so I hope it turned out well enough to be read. Respectfully Maurice mines. On 7/30/2022 11:37 AM, robert stigile wrote: > Alison, > I think that whatever assistance she can get the Lions Club will be greatly appreciated. > However, I do believe that we as an organization need to train them and this goes for any volunteer group not just alliance so that we can work with them on the proper etiquette so that they're not just doing everything for us I am sure you will handle that just fine > > Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President > National Federation of the Blind of California > President San Fernando Valley Chapter > 818-381-9568 > > >> On Jul 30, 2022, at 11:15 AM, adepner1425 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> ?I plan to ask my local Lions to help out during the convention in various capacities. I'm not sure of all I'll be able to come up with, but I intend to try to get some help with assisting those who need it with finding a seat after the trip to the buffet. I also intend to make sure that such assistance is offered, not forced and is offered and provided in a respectful and appropriate manner that does not conflict with our NFB philosophy. I hope this effort on my part is not taken as antithetical to our philosophy of independence. I just want to make sure that everyone has a chance to eat the dinner they paid for . Not everyone has had the same level of training or has acquired the same skill set. I hope all this makes sense. >> >> >> Respectfully, >> Allison Depner, >> National Federation of the Blind of California, San Diego Chapter President >> (619) 952-2352 >> Adepner1425 at gmail.com >> You Can Live the Life You Want. >> Blindness is Not What Holds You Back! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf Of Rachel Grider >> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 4:59 PM >> To: NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022 >> Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet >> >> This is good to know. I think one thing that we will need to do is have people who are helping to move the line forward. Perhaps from the ambassadors committee. This way we can make sure that everyone gets food. >> >>> On Jul 28, 2022, at 16:54, Cricket X. Bidleman wrote: >>> >>> ?Okay, thanks for clarifying. It sounded like, from the conversation >>> last night, that it would be a buffet where everyone serves >>> themselves. It's reassuring to hear that there will be people serving. >>> >>>>> On 7/28/22, robert stigile wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> The hotel will have staff serving food they just dont have the space >>>> for a sit down restaurant! >>>> >>>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the >>>> Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter >>>> 818-381-9568 >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 28, 2022, at 4:22 PM, cheryl thurston >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?I agree. >>>>> if the hotel is going to charge banquet prices, they should have >>>>> someone from their catering staff serve the food. >>>>> You are talking about a lot of blind people in line and trying to >>>>> carry their plates back to the table without an accident. >>>>> My deepest concern will everyone get to eat if the food is only for >>>>> an hour. >>>>> >>>>> Cheryl Thurston >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/28/22, Cricket X. Bidleman wrote: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I spoke with Rachel about this yesterday after our meeting. I am >>>>>> concerned about the banquet buffet. Not everyone knows how to serve >>>>>> themselves from a buffet line in a sanitary way, and I'm wondering >>>>>> what you all think about having volunteers serve people along a line. >>>>>> I'd rather not have people touching everything in the serving >>>>>> dishes or, for example, scooping mashed potatoes with their hands. >>>>>> Theoretically, people coming to the banquet should not have Covid, >>>>>> but they may not test positive until the next day. What do you think? >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Cricket >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman, B.A (she/her/hers) M.A Candidate | Stanford >>>>>> Journalism Class of 2022 Co-Chair | Stanford Daily Diversity, >>>>>> Equity, and Inclusion Committee Member | Blind Advisory Committee, >>>>>> California Department of Vocational rehabilitation >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Plan22 mailing list >>>>>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>>>>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Plan22 mailing list >>>>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>>>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plan22 mailing list >>>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cricket X. Bidleman, B.A (she/her/hers) M.A Candidate | Stanford >>> Journalism Class of 2022 Co-Chair | Stanford Daily Diversity, Equity, >>> and Inclusion Committee Member | Blind Advisory Committee, California >>> Department of Vocational rehabilitation >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plan22 mailing list >>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >> _______________________________________________ >> Plan22 mailing list >> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plan22 mailing list >> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 > _______________________________________________ > Plan22 mailing list > Plan22 at nfbcal.org > https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 _______________________________________________ Plan22 mailing list Plan22 at nfbcal.org https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 From rstigile at gmail.com Mon Aug 1 11:55:10 2022 From: rstigile at gmail.com (Robert Stigile) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2022 11:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Plan22] information Message-ID: <113299071.0.1659380109149@localhost> Hello All, I heard back this morning from our hotel rep. The hotel meeting rooms and all guest rooms have air filters, but they are not hepa filters. They are following the state of California and San Diego Covid guide lines so if someone comes down with covid, they hope that the person take whatever precautions they need, but at this time no one needs to test in order to stay at their hotel. As far as social distanceing they could seat 8 at a table instead of 10 or however we want them to set up the seating. I hope I have covered all of the questions for now from our last meeting. Thank you, From president at nfbcal.org Tue Aug 2 13:33:59 2022 From: president at nfbcal.org (president at nfbcal.org) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 13:33:59 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] Banquet buffet In-Reply-To: <003201d8a444$bcb54f80$361fee80$@gmail.com> References: <000101d8a440$1fa726e0$5ef574a0$@gmail.com> <003201d8a444$bcb54f80$361fee80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <01a101d8a6af$32415660$96c40320$@nfbcal.org> Thanks Alley. I have absolute confidence that you'll train our volunteers well. Michael Richardson often provides on site logistics and ambassador help during the convention. You might consider if he can help. I really like the idea of using college folks for this function. Tim Elder President National Federation of the Blind of California president at nfbcal.org (916) 382-0372 http://www.nfbcal.org/ Did you know that blind Californians are holding monthly meetings in your region over Zoom and telephone? Check out our virtual local chapter and division meetings. All are welcome to attend. http://www.nfbcal.org/chapters-and-divisions/ -----Original Message----- From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf Of adepner1425 at gmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2022 11:47 AM To: 'NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022' Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet Agreed. That is why I plan to provide that kind of training ahead of time. The last thing I want is to encourage any enabling practices. I think everyone should know me by now. I'm always concerned and dismayed when I encounter individuals who have the potential to do for themselves, but choose to take advantage of well meaning, but enabling behaviors from people around them. alley Respectfully, Allison Depner, National Federation of the Blind of California, San Diego Chapter President (619) 952-2352 Adepner1425 at gmail.com You Can Live the Life You Want. Blindness is Not What Holds You Back! -----Original Message----- From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf Of robert stigile Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2022 11:38 AM To: NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022 Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet Alison, I think that whatever assistance she can get the Lions Club will be greatly appreciated. However, I do believe that we as an organization need to train them and this goes for any volunteer group not just alliance so that we can work with them on the proper etiquette so that they're not just doing everything for us I am sure you will handle that just fine Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter 818-381-9568 > On Jul 30, 2022, at 11:15 AM, adepner1425 at gmail.com wrote: > > ?I plan to ask my local Lions to help out during the convention in various capacities. I'm not sure of all I'll be able to come up with, but I intend to try to get some help with assisting those who need it with finding a seat after the trip to the buffet. I also intend to make sure that such assistance is offered, not forced and is offered and provided in a respectful and appropriate manner that does not conflict with our NFB philosophy. I hope this effort on my part is not taken as antithetical to our philosophy of independence. I just want to make sure that everyone has a chance to eat the dinner they paid for . Not everyone has had the same level of training or has acquired the same skill set. I hope all this makes sense. > > > Respectfully, > Allison Depner, > National Federation of the Blind of California, San Diego Chapter > President > (619) 952-2352 > Adepner1425 at gmail.com > You Can Live the Life You Want. > Blindness is Not What Holds You Back! > > -----Original Message----- > From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf > Of Rachel Grider > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 4:59 PM > To: NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022 > > Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet > > This is good to know. I think one thing that we will need to do is have people who are helping to move the line forward. Perhaps from the ambassadors committee. This way we can make sure that everyone gets food. > >> On Jul 28, 2022, at 16:54, Cricket X. Bidleman wrote: >> >> ?Okay, thanks for clarifying. It sounded like, from the conversation >> last night, that it would be a buffet where everyone serves >> themselves. It's reassuring to hear that there will be people serving. >> >>>> On 7/28/22, robert stigile wrote: >>> Hello, >>> The hotel will have staff serving food they just dont have the space >>> for a sit down restaurant! >>> >>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the >>> Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter >>> 818-381-9568 >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 28, 2022, at 4:22 PM, cheryl thurston >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> ?I agree. >>>> if the hotel is going to charge banquet prices, they should have >>>> someone from their catering staff serve the food. >>>> You are talking about a lot of blind people in line and trying to >>>> carry their plates back to the table without an accident. >>>> My deepest concern will everyone get to eat if the food is only for >>>> an hour. >>>> >>>> Cheryl Thurston >>>> >>>>> On 7/28/22, Cricket X. Bidleman wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I spoke with Rachel about this yesterday after our meeting. I am >>>>> concerned about the banquet buffet. Not everyone knows how to >>>>> serve themselves from a buffet line in a sanitary way, and I'm >>>>> wondering what you all think about having volunteers serve people along a line. >>>>> I'd rather not have people touching everything in the serving >>>>> dishes or, for example, scooping mashed potatoes with their hands. >>>>> Theoretically, people coming to the banquet should not have Covid, >>>>> but they may not test positive until the next day. What do you think? >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman, B.A (she/her/hers) M.A Candidate | Stanford >>>>> Journalism Class of 2022 Co-Chair | Stanford Daily Diversity, >>>>> Equity, and Inclusion Committee Member | Blind Advisory Committee, >>>>> California Department of Vocational rehabilitation >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Plan22 mailing list >>>>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>>>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plan22 mailing list >>>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plan22 mailing list >>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cricket X. Bidleman, B.A (she/her/hers) M.A Candidate | Stanford >> Journalism Class of 2022 Co-Chair | Stanford Daily Diversity, Equity, >> and Inclusion Committee Member | Blind Advisory Committee, California >> Department of Vocational rehabilitation >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plan22 mailing list >> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 > > _______________________________________________ > Plan22 mailing list > Plan22 at nfbcal.org > https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 > > > _______________________________________________ > Plan22 mailing list > Plan22 at nfbcal.org > https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 _______________________________________________ Plan22 mailing list Plan22 at nfbcal.org https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 _______________________________________________ Plan22 mailing list Plan22 at nfbcal.org https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 From adepner1425 at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 14:27:55 2022 From: adepner1425 at gmail.com (adepner1425 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 14:27:55 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] Banquet buffet In-Reply-To: <01a101d8a6af$32415660$96c40320$@nfbcal.org> References: <000101d8a440$1fa726e0$5ef574a0$@gmail.com> <003201d8a444$bcb54f80$361fee80$@gmail.com> <01a101d8a6af$32415660$96c40320$@nfbcal.org> Message-ID: <000201d8a6b6$bbaa2ba0$32fe82e0$@gmail.com> I like the idea as well. I've e-mailed our local chapter of Delta Gamma, and have received no response. There does not seem to be a phone number. I'll try getting in touch with the university if I don't hear something soon. Alley Respectfully, Allison Depner, National Federation of the Blind of California, San Diego Chapter President (619) 952-2352 Adepner1425 at gmail.com You Can Live the Life You Want. Blindness is Not What Holds You Back! -----Original Message----- From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf Of president at nfbcal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 1:34 PM To: 'NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022' Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet Thanks Alley. I have absolute confidence that you'll train our volunteers well. Michael Richardson often provides on site logistics and ambassador help during the convention. You might consider if he can help. I really like the idea of using college folks for this function. Tim Elder President National Federation of the Blind of California president at nfbcal.org (916) 382-0372 http://www.nfbcal.org/ Did you know that blind Californians are holding monthly meetings in your region over Zoom and telephone? Check out our virtual local chapter and division meetings. All are welcome to attend. http://www.nfbcal.org/chapters-and-divisions/ -----Original Message----- From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf Of adepner1425 at gmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2022 11:47 AM To: 'NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022' Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet Agreed. That is why I plan to provide that kind of training ahead of time. The last thing I want is to encourage any enabling practices. I think everyone should know me by now. I'm always concerned and dismayed when I encounter individuals who have the potential to do for themselves, but choose to take advantage of well meaning, but enabling behaviors from people around them. alley Respectfully, Allison Depner, National Federation of the Blind of California, San Diego Chapter President (619) 952-2352 Adepner1425 at gmail.com You Can Live the Life You Want. Blindness is Not What Holds You Back! -----Original Message----- From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf Of robert stigile Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2022 11:38 AM To: NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022 Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet Alison, I think that whatever assistance she can get the Lions Club will be greatly appreciated. However, I do believe that we as an organization need to train them and this goes for any volunteer group not just alliance so that we can work with them on the proper etiquette so that they're not just doing everything for us I am sure you will handle that just fine Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter 818-381-9568 > On Jul 30, 2022, at 11:15 AM, adepner1425 at gmail.com wrote: > > ?I plan to ask my local Lions to help out during the convention in various capacities. I'm not sure of all I'll be able to come up with, but I intend to try to get some help with assisting those who need it with finding a seat after the trip to the buffet. I also intend to make sure that such assistance is offered, not forced and is offered and provided in a respectful and appropriate manner that does not conflict with our NFB philosophy. I hope this effort on my part is not taken as antithetical to our philosophy of independence. I just want to make sure that everyone has a chance to eat the dinner they paid for . Not everyone has had the same level of training or has acquired the same skill set. I hope all this makes sense. > > > Respectfully, > Allison Depner, > National Federation of the Blind of California, San Diego Chapter > President > (619) 952-2352 > Adepner1425 at gmail.com > You Can Live the Life You Want. > Blindness is Not What Holds You Back! > > -----Original Message----- > From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf > Of Rachel Grider > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 4:59 PM > To: NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022 > > Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet > > This is good to know. I think one thing that we will need to do is have people who are helping to move the line forward. Perhaps from the ambassadors committee. This way we can make sure that everyone gets food. > >> On Jul 28, 2022, at 16:54, Cricket X. Bidleman wrote: >> >> ?Okay, thanks for clarifying. It sounded like, from the conversation >> last night, that it would be a buffet where everyone serves >> themselves. It's reassuring to hear that there will be people serving. >> >>>> On 7/28/22, robert stigile wrote: >>> Hello, >>> The hotel will have staff serving food they just dont have the space >>> for a sit down restaurant! >>> >>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the >>> Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter >>> 818-381-9568 >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 28, 2022, at 4:22 PM, cheryl thurston >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> ?I agree. >>>> if the hotel is going to charge banquet prices, they should have >>>> someone from their catering staff serve the food. >>>> You are talking about a lot of blind people in line and trying to >>>> carry their plates back to the table without an accident. >>>> My deepest concern will everyone get to eat if the food is only for >>>> an hour. >>>> >>>> Cheryl Thurston >>>> >>>>> On 7/28/22, Cricket X. Bidleman wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I spoke with Rachel about this yesterday after our meeting. I am >>>>> concerned about the banquet buffet. Not everyone knows how to >>>>> serve themselves from a buffet line in a sanitary way, and I'm >>>>> wondering what you all think about having volunteers serve people along a line. >>>>> I'd rather not have people touching everything in the serving >>>>> dishes or, for example, scooping mashed potatoes with their hands. >>>>> Theoretically, people coming to the banquet should not have Covid, >>>>> but they may not test positive until the next day. What do you think? >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Cricket >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman, B.A (she/her/hers) M.A Candidate | Stanford >>>>> Journalism Class of 2022 Co-Chair | Stanford Daily Diversity, >>>>> Equity, and Inclusion Committee Member | Blind Advisory Committee, >>>>> California Department of Vocational rehabilitation >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Plan22 mailing list >>>>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>>>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plan22 mailing list >>>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plan22 mailing list >>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cricket X. Bidleman, B.A (she/her/hers) M.A Candidate | Stanford >> Journalism Class of 2022 Co-Chair | Stanford Daily Diversity, Equity, >> and Inclusion Committee Member | Blind Advisory Committee, California >> Department of Vocational rehabilitation >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plan22 mailing list >> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 > > _______________________________________________ > Plan22 mailing list > Plan22 at nfbcal.org > https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 > > > _______________________________________________ > Plan22 mailing list > Plan22 at nfbcal.org > https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 _______________________________________________ Plan22 mailing list Plan22 at nfbcal.org https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 _______________________________________________ Plan22 mailing list Plan22 at nfbcal.org https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 _______________________________________________ Plan22 mailing list Plan22 at nfbcal.org https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 From sfelts at hotmail.com Wed Aug 3 09:22:56 2022 From: sfelts at hotmail.com (shelbi felter) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2022 16:22:56 +0000 Subject: [Plan22] Banquet buffet In-Reply-To: <000201d8a6b6$bbaa2ba0$32fe82e0$@gmail.com> References: <000101d8a440$1fa726e0$5ef574a0$@gmail.com> <003201d8a444$bcb54f80$361fee80$@gmail.com> <01a101d8a6af$32415660$96c40320$@nfbcal.org> <000201d8a6b6$bbaa2ba0$32fe82e0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I sent them a instagram message as well will keep you updated Shelbi Felter B.A. College of education CSULB Don?t let anyone dull your sparkle sparkle?s > On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:29 PM, adepner1425 at gmail.com wrote: > > ?I like the idea as well. I've e-mailed our local chapter of Delta Gamma, and have received no response. There does not seem to be a phone number. I'll try getting in touch with the university if I don't hear something soon. > Alley > > Respectfully, > Allison Depner, > National Federation of the Blind of California, San Diego Chapter President > (619) 952-2352 > Adepner1425 at gmail.com > You Can Live the Life You Want. > Blindness is Not What Holds You Back! > > -----Original Message----- > From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf Of president at nfbcal.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 1:34 PM > To: 'NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022' > Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet > > Thanks Alley. I have absolute confidence that you'll train our volunteers well. Michael Richardson often provides on site logistics and ambassador help during the convention. You might consider if he can help. I really like the idea of using college folks for this function. > > > Tim Elder > President > National Federation of the Blind of California president at nfbcal.org > (916) 382-0372 > http://www.nfbcal.org/ > > Did you know that blind Californians are holding monthly meetings in your region over Zoom and telephone? Check out our virtual local chapter and division meetings. All are welcome to attend. > http://www.nfbcal.org/chapters-and-divisions/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf Of adepner1425 at gmail.com > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2022 11:47 AM > To: 'NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022' > Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet > > Agreed. That is why I plan to provide that kind of training ahead of time. The last thing I want is to encourage any enabling practices. I think everyone should know me by now. I'm always concerned and dismayed when I encounter individuals who have the potential to do for themselves, but choose to take advantage of well meaning, but enabling behaviors from people around them. > alley > > Respectfully, > Allison Depner, > National Federation of the Blind of California, San Diego Chapter President > (619) 952-2352 > Adepner1425 at gmail.com > You Can Live the Life You Want. > Blindness is Not What Holds You Back! > > -----Original Message----- > From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf Of robert stigile > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2022 11:38 AM > To: NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022 > Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet > > Alison, > I think that whatever assistance she can get the Lions Club will be greatly appreciated. > However, I do believe that we as an organization need to train them and this goes for any volunteer group not just alliance so that we can work with them on the proper etiquette so that they're not just doing everything for us I am sure you will handle that just fine > > Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President > National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter > 818-381-9568 > > >> On Jul 30, 2022, at 11:15 AM, adepner1425 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> ?I plan to ask my local Lions to help out during the convention in various capacities. I'm not sure of all I'll be able to come up with, but I intend to try to get some help with assisting those who need it with finding a seat after the trip to the buffet. I also intend to make sure that such assistance is offered, not forced and is offered and provided in a respectful and appropriate manner that does not conflict with our NFB philosophy. I hope this effort on my part is not taken as antithetical to our philosophy of independence. I just want to make sure that everyone has a chance to eat the dinner they paid for . Not everyone has had the same level of training or has acquired the same skill set. I hope all this makes sense. >> >> >> Respectfully, >> Allison Depner, >> National Federation of the Blind of California, San Diego Chapter >> President >> (619) 952-2352 >> Adepner1425 at gmail.com >> You Can Live the Life You Want. >> Blindness is Not What Holds You Back! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: plan22-bounces at nfbcal.org On Behalf >> Of Rachel Grider >> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 4:59 PM >> To: NFB of California Conventionplanning committee, 2022 >> >> Subject: Re: [Plan22] Banquet buffet >> >> This is good to know. I think one thing that we will need to do is have people who are helping to move the line forward. Perhaps from the ambassadors committee. This way we can make sure that everyone gets food. >> >>>> On Jul 28, 2022, at 16:54, Cricket X. Bidleman wrote: >>> >>> ?Okay, thanks for clarifying. It sounded like, from the conversation >>> last night, that it would be a buffet where everyone serves >>> themselves. It's reassuring to hear that there will be people serving. >>> >>>>> On 7/28/22, robert stigile wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> The hotel will have staff serving food they just dont have the space >>>> for a sit down restaurant! >>>> >>>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the >>>> Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter >>>> 818-381-9568 >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 28, 2022, at 4:22 PM, cheryl thurston >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?I agree. >>>>> if the hotel is going to charge banquet prices, they should have >>>>> someone from their catering staff serve the food. >>>>> You are talking about a lot of blind people in line and trying to >>>>> carry their plates back to the table without an accident. >>>>> My deepest concern will everyone get to eat if the food is only for >>>>> an hour. >>>>> >>>>> Cheryl Thurston >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/28/22, Cricket X. Bidleman wrote: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I spoke with Rachel about this yesterday after our meeting. I am >>>>>> concerned about the banquet buffet. Not everyone knows how to >>>>>> serve themselves from a buffet line in a sanitary way, and I'm >>>>>> wondering what you all think about having volunteers serve people along a line. >>>>>> I'd rather not have people touching everything in the serving >>>>>> dishes or, for example, scooping mashed potatoes with their hands. >>>>>> Theoretically, people coming to the banquet should not have Covid, >>>>>> but they may not test positive until the next day. What do you think? >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Cricket >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cricket X. Bidleman, B.A (she/her/hers) M.A Candidate | Stanford >>>>>> Journalism Class of 2022 Co-Chair | Stanford Daily Diversity, >>>>>> Equity, and Inclusion Committee Member | Blind Advisory Committee, >>>>>> California Department of Vocational rehabilitation >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Plan22 mailing list >>>>>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>>>>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Plan22 mailing list >>>>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>>>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plan22 mailing list >>>> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >>>> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cricket X. 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Tomorrow will be our next convention planning committee meeting at 8 PM. There is a lot to discuss. Meanwhile, Tiffany is working on getting registration finished with the prices we decided at our last meeting. I will send an agenda out do you all before the meeting tomorrow. See you soon! Rachel The National Federation of the Blind of California is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: Convention Planning Meeting Time: This is a recurring meeting Meet anytime Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/97914374627?pwd=aVAyV01mQlJ6VEhiTGVON1dYTXE2UT09 Meeting ID: 979 1437 4627 Passcode: 043209 One tap mobile +16694449171,,97914374627# US +16699006833,,97914374627# US (San Jose) Dial by your location +1 669 444 9171 US +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 408 638 0968 US (San Jose) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 719 359 4580 US +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 309 205 3325 US +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 386 347 5053 US +1 564 217 2000 US +1 646 876 9923 US (New York) +1 646 931 3860 US +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) Meeting ID: 979 1437 4627 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/abkhcBoxeV Join by Skype for Business https://zoom.us/skype/97914374627 From rachel.grider at gmail.com Wed Aug 10 13:42:48 2022 From: rachel.grider at gmail.com (Rachel Grider) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:42:48 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] State Convention Covid Protocol Draft Message-ID: <0DE74935-D28E-4FFD-9102-D9114E44553E@gmail.com> Hi, guys: Here is an updated draft of Covid protocols for convention based on talking with Tim and on our meeting two weeks ago. A few things are still being looked into, as noted below. ?1. Each member would be required to provide a negative Covid test taken no more than 24 hours before arriving. I am inquiring about prices for Covid testing services during convention, but at the very least, there will be Ellume tests on hand at convention. 2. Only after providing both negative Covid tests, attendees would be able to pick up the registration Materials. Materials would include a wristband, similar to what we had a national, and attendees would be required to wear that wristband at all convention activities, including division meetings and hospitality suite. Each registration packet would also include a KN 95 mask, or perhaps a few K and 95 masks. We would have extras as well for those who only bring cotton masks or cloth masks which will not be as effective. 3. We would have Volunteers stationed outside of all meeting rooms and activities, including sessions, banquet, exhibit hall, division meetings, convention breakfasts or luncheon, breakouts, etc. These volunteers would not allow anyone in unless they are wearing the convention wristband and a KN 95 or N 95 mask correctly covering their mouth and nose. In addition, these volunteers, as well as leaders in our affiliate, would pay attention during convention activities to make sure that attendees are wearing their masks correctly and remind people if needed. Volunteers may ask an attendee to leave if they refuse to wear a mask. 4. Everyone will be required to wear masks during convention activities unless actively eating or giving a presentation in front of the group. It may be useful to have reminders built in to general sessions somehow, similar to how national did it, to remind people to follow protocols. 5. We can provide some education to all members before attending convention regarding consent for any physical contact during convention, including shaking hands and hugs, reminding attendees that it is important for them to ask before engaging in physical contact. 6. We will social distance as much as possible, though we will not be able to sit far apart in the meeting rooms. 7. We will have accessible Covid tests on hand so that anyone can test at any time during the convention. Perhaps we could even include one in each registration packet. 8. If someone comes down with Covid during convention, we will provide support for that person. We will have a committee that is tasked with checking in on those with Covid and making sure that they get food and other things they need delivered to their room. We should also find out the hotel?s protocols regarding guests with Covid, and inform everyone ahead of time. If someone tests positive during convention, they will not be allowed to participate in-person for the rest of convention, even if they test negative the next day. 9. If somebody comes down With Covid during convention and is attending virtually because of it, they will not be penalized for missing meetings. This could apply to scholarship winners or other grant winners. They can also apply if they receive a door prize. 10. We need to decide whether or not we will refund registration and banquet if someone comes down with Covid. That will probably be a board decision because we will need to decide how that will work, requirements for being reimbursed, etc.? 11. All committee leaders will need to have at least one back up in case they come down with Covid. Board members will need to be really communicative to make sure that responsibilities follow the chain of command in case of Covid. For example, if Tim gets Covid, I will be responsible for taking over his responsibilities, and if I get Covid, Robert will be responsible for my responsibilities, etc. 12. Careful records will be kept regarding positive and negative Covid tests. People will be encouraged to report positive Covid tests during convention to the committee chair. 13. The hotel will be providing servers for the Buffay?s to minimize direct contact with food. That is what I have right now. Let me know if there is something I am forgetting. Rachel From rachel.grider at gmail.com Wed Aug 10 14:11:31 2022 From: rachel.grider at gmail.com (Rachel Grider) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 14:11:31 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] =?utf-8?q?Tonight=E2=80=99s_Agenda?= Message-ID: <3D80AD93-F3BA-47F1-98F7-DD47CE9ACE54@gmail.com> ?Hello, everyone: Here is a rough agenda for tonight. I am also attaching notes from ourr last meeting 1. Registration update, including Spanish translation. 2. Scholarship update, including Spanish translation. 3. Exhibit letter and vendor fees. 4. Sample agenda outline. 5. Auction and door prizes. 6. Anything else that needs to be addressed. Please let me know if there are other time sensitive things that we need to talk about tonight. Thank you! Rachel From rachel.grider at gmail.com Wed Aug 10 14:17:11 2022 From: rachel.grider at gmail.com (Rachel Grider) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 14:17:11 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] Notes Message-ID: <55608429-0CA2-4900-983E-34A7A241BA7F@gmail.com> Hello, again: I forgot to attach the notes from our last meeting. Also, the zoom link for tonight is below. R The National Federation of the Blind of California is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. 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Thank you, Cheryl Thurston On 8/9/22, Rachel Grider wrote: > Hello, everyone: > > I hope you?ve all enjoyed your last two weeks. Tomorrow will be our next > convention planning committee meeting at 8 PM. There is a lot to discuss. > Meanwhile, Tiffany is working on getting registration finished with the > prices we decided at our last meeting. I will send an agenda out do you all > before the meeting tomorrow. > > See you soon! > > Rachel > > The National Federation of the Blind of California is inviting you to a > scheduled Zoom meeting. > > Topic: Convention Planning Meeting > Time: This is a recurring meeting Meet anytime > > Join Zoom Meeting > https://zoom.us/j/97914374627?pwd=aVAyV01mQlJ6VEhiTGVON1dYTXE2UT09 > > Meeting ID: 979 1437 4627 > Passcode: 043209 > One tap mobile > +16694449171,,97914374627# US > +16699006833,,97914374627# US (San Jose) > > Dial by your location > +1 669 444 9171 US > +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) > +1 408 638 0968 US (San Jose) > +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) > +1 719 359 4580 US > +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) > +1 309 205 3325 US > +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) > +1 386 347 5053 US > +1 564 217 2000 US > +1 646 876 9923 US (New York) > +1 646 931 3860 US > +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) > Meeting ID: 979 1437 4627 > Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/abkhcBoxeV > > Join by Skype for Business > https://zoom.us/skype/97914374627 > > > _______________________________________________ > Plan22 mailing list > Plan22 at nfbcal.org > https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 > From buhrow at nfbcal.org Sun Aug 14 09:09:05 2022 From: buhrow at nfbcal.org (Brian Buhrow) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 09:09:05 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] ARTICLE ON NEW CDC GUIDANCE AND COVID Message-ID: <202208141609.27EG95vK014253@nfbcal.org> hello planning committee. I came across the following article in the San Jose Mercury News yesterday. I thought this article would be of interest to this group because it may influence the Covid protocols we implement for this year's state convention. While I appreciate Rachel's rigorous set of protocols for this year's convention, I am concerned that we're swimming upstream when it comes to imposing more protocols, even as the nation, lead by the CDC, is ratcheting the protocols down. this was demonstrated to me on our last planning call when Allison observed that the hotel told her they were just following what the CDC said when it came to Covid protocols and procedures. As time goes by, the CDC is moving toward a position that I would characterize as "Every person for themselves". I encourage this committee to read this article, link and text pasted below, and then see where we fall, as a committee on these protocols. As Jamie observed a couple of weeks ago, this is a moving target and November looks like an eternity away at this point. -Brian https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/08/11/cdc-eases-covid-19-guidance/ CDC eases COVID-19 guidance. What you need to know Quarantine no longer recommended after virus exposure A sign at the entrance to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is seen, Tuesday, April 19, 2022, in Atlanta. A decision by a federal judge in Florida to throw out a national mask mandate for public transportation across the U.S. created a confusing patchwork of rules for passengers. The CDC recently extended the mandate, but the court decision put the mandate on hold. (AP Photo/Ron Harris) A sign at the entrance to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is seen, Tuesday, April 19, 2022, in Atlanta. A decision by a federal judge in Florida to throw out a national mask mandate for public transportation across the U.S. created a confusing patchwork of rules for passengers. The CDC recently extended the mandate, but the court decision put the mandate on hold. (AP Photo/Ron Harris) By John Woolfolk | jwoolfolk at bayareanewsgroup.com | Bay Area News Group PUBLISHED: August 11, 2022 at 12:11 p.m. | UPDATED: August 12, 2022 at 8:05 a.m. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention streamlined its guidance Thursday for keeping COVID-19 in check, de-emphasizing social distancing, nixing screening tests for those without symptoms and no longer recommending that people who aren't current on vaccines quarantine after exposure to the virus. In one of the most significant changes, federal health officials no longer urge people who are unvaccinated or haven't had a booster shot to "stay home and quarantine for at least five full days" after exposure while advising those current on the vaccine or who had recovered from COVID-19 in the past 90 days to only stay home if they had symptoms. Now, the CDC recommends that everyone -- regardless of vaccination or past infection -- "wear a high-quality mask for 10 days and get tested on day five" after exposure to the virus. The guidance revision that has been anticipated for weeks relaxes rules aimed at keeping people apart that had made many aspects of social life fraught with anxiety, from weddings and concerts to attending school. "We're in a stronger place today as a nation, with more tools -- like vaccination, boosters, and treatments -- to protect ourselves, and our communities, from severe illness from COVID-19," Greta Massetti, chief of the CDC's Field Epidemiology and Prevention Branch, said in a statement accompanying the announcement. "We also have a better understanding of how to protect people from being exposed to the virus, like wearing high-quality masks, testing, and improved ventilation," Massetti said. "This guidance acknowledges that the pandemic is not over, but also helps us move to a point where COVID-19 no longer severely disrupts our daily lives." The new rules also say it's no longer necessary to screen people who have no symptoms or known exposure to detect hidden infections among groups of people such as students at school. And the agency now says "physical distance is just one component of how to protect yourself and others." U.S. Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona said that means schools won't have to worry about maintaining space between desks to reduce outbreaks. "This latest guidance from the CDC should give our students, parents, and educators the confidence they need to head back to school this year with a sense of joy and optimism," Cardona said. "While COVID continues to evolve, so has our understanding of the science and what it takes to return to school safely." American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten said she welcomed the changes and said that with prevention and treatment options available, "now is not the time for new mandates." On Twitter, Stanford medical school professor Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a vocal critic of pandemic lockdowns, applauded the new guidelines for dismantling vaccine segregation and "eliminating unnecessary disruptions in the lives of kids this school year." The CDC said that regardless of vaccination status, "you should isolate from others when you have COVID-19" or are "sick and suspect that you have COVID-19 but do not yet have test results." If the test is negative, there's no need to isolate. But if it's positive, the CDC says you still should stay home for at least five days and isolate from others in your home and wear a high-quality mask such as an N95 or KN95 for 10 days when you must be around others at home or in public. The CDC said you should avoid being around people who are most likely to get very sick from COVID-19, such as those who are old or have chronic illness, for at least 11 days. As before, those who test positive but have no symptoms can end isolation after five days. Those who have moderate symptoms including difficulty breathing or become hospitalized should isolate for a full 10 days. The looser guidelines come as COVID-19 transmission levels, driven by the now dominant and immunity-evasive BA.5 omicron variant, are high across 94% of the U.S. and most California counties, including all of the Bay Area. The CDC's COVID-19 "community level" -- a metric introduced last spring that places more emphasis on the disease's impact on regional medical resources, is high across 42% of the U.S. and many California counties, including every Bay Area county except Marin. But the summer case surge appears to have peaked, and no newer variants have been gaining ground on BA.5, which has not spurred hospitalizations and deaths as much as earlier variants. The CDC says "it is important to consider the risk in a particular setting, including local COVID-19 Community Levels and the important role of ventilation, when assessing the need to maintain physical distance." COVID-19 vaccines now are authorized for everyone 6 months old and up, and two-thirds of Americans and nearly three fourths of Californians are considered fully vaccinated, while just under half across the U.S. and 55% in California have had at least one vaccine booster. The CDC said "protection provided by the current vaccine against symptomatic infection and transmission is less than that against severe disease and diminishes over time, especially against the currently circulating variants." "For this reason," the CDC continued, "it is important to stay up to date, especially as new vaccines become available." From blackbyrdfly at gmail.com Sun Aug 14 09:50:39 2022 From: blackbyrdfly at gmail.com (blackbyrdfly at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 09:50:39 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] ARTICLE ON NEW CDC GUIDANCE AND COVID In-Reply-To: <202208141609.27EG95vK014253@nfbcal.org> References: <202208141609.27EG95vK014253@nfbcal.org> Message-ID: I think we are on a good and fairly inclusive trajectory with the protocols we are planning, even if CDC guidelines are, for the time being and for a fairly wide variety of reasons, relaxing. In a case like this where health and safety is a concern, and where in person participation is unfortunately necessary for 100% participation, I think planning too much precaution is better than too little. I?ve also yet to attend a conference of a professional nature (or for that matter, a routine doctors appointment, hair appointment, childrens activity or trip to the gym) since COVID that did not go above and beyond CDC?s guidelines at the time with their own protocols. Jamie Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Brian Buhrow wrote: > > ? hello planning committee. I came across the following article in the San Jose Mercury > News yesterday. I thought this article would be of interest to this group because it may > influence the Covid protocols we implement for this year's state convention. While I > appreciate Rachel's rigorous set of protocols for this year's convention, I am concerned that > we're swimming upstream when it comes to imposing more protocols, even as the nation, lead by > the CDC, is ratcheting the protocols down. this was demonstrated to me on our last planning > call when Allison observed that the hotel told her they were just following what the CDC said > when it came to Covid protocols and procedures. As time goes by, the CDC is moving toward a > position that I would characterize as "Every person for themselves". > I encourage this committee to read this article, link and text pasted below, and then see > where we fall, as a committee on these protocols. As Jamie observed a couple of weeks ago, > this is a moving target and November looks like an eternity away at this point. > > > -Brian > > https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/08/11/cdc-eases-covid-19-guidance/ > > > CDC eases COVID-19 guidance. What you need to know > > Quarantine no longer recommended after virus exposure > > > A sign at the entrance to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is seen, Tuesday, > April 19, 2022, in Atlanta. A decision by a federal judge in Florida to throw out a > national mask mandate for public transportation across the U.S. created a confusing > patchwork of rules for passengers. The CDC recently extended the mandate, but the court > decision put the mandate on hold. (AP Photo/Ron Harris) > A sign at the entrance to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is seen, Tuesday, > April 19, 2022, in Atlanta. A decision by a federal judge in Florida to throw out a > national mask mandate for public transportation across the U.S. created a confusing > patchwork of rules for passengers. The CDC recently extended the mandate, but the court > decision put the mandate on hold. (AP Photo/Ron Harris) > By John Woolfolk | jwoolfolk at bayareanewsgroup.com | Bay Area News Group > PUBLISHED: August 11, 2022 at 12:11 p.m. | UPDATED: August 12, 2022 at 8:05 a.m. > > The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention streamlined its guidance Thursday for > keeping COVID-19 in check, de-emphasizing social distancing, nixing screening tests for > those without symptoms and no longer recommending that people who aren't current on > vaccines quarantine after exposure to the virus. > > In one of the most significant changes, federal health officials no longer urge people who > are unvaccinated or haven't had a booster shot to "stay home and quarantine for at least > five full days" after exposure while advising those current on the vaccine or who had > recovered from COVID-19 in the past 90 days to only stay home if they had symptoms. > > Now, the CDC recommends that everyone -- regardless of vaccination or past infection -- > "wear a high-quality mask for 10 days and get tested on day five" after exposure to the > virus. > > The guidance revision that has been anticipated for weeks relaxes rules aimed at keeping > people apart that had made many aspects of social life fraught with anxiety, from weddings > and concerts to attending school. > > "We're in a stronger place today as a nation, with more tools -- like vaccination, > boosters, and treatments -- to protect ourselves, and our communities, from severe illness > from COVID-19," Greta Massetti, chief of the CDC's Field Epidemiology and Prevention > Branch, said in a statement accompanying the announcement. > > "We also have a better understanding of how to protect people from being exposed to the > virus, like wearing high-quality masks, testing, and improved ventilation," Massetti said. > "This guidance acknowledges that the pandemic is not over, but also helps us move to a > point where COVID-19 no longer severely disrupts our daily lives." > > The new rules also say it's no longer necessary to screen people who have no symptoms or > known exposure to detect hidden infections among groups of people such as students at > school. And the agency now says "physical distance is just one component of how to protect > yourself and others." > > U.S. Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona said that means schools won't have to worry > about maintaining space between desks to reduce outbreaks. > > "This latest guidance from the CDC should give our students, parents, and educators the > confidence they need to head back to school this year with a sense of joy and optimism," > Cardona said. "While COVID continues to evolve, so has our understanding of the science and > what it takes to return to school safely." > > American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten said she welcomed the changes > and said that with prevention and treatment options available, "now is not the time for new > mandates." > > On Twitter, Stanford medical school professor Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a vocal critic of > pandemic lockdowns, applauded the new guidelines for dismantling vaccine segregation and > "eliminating unnecessary disruptions in the lives of kids this school year." > > The CDC said that regardless of vaccination status, "you should isolate from others when > you have COVID-19" or are "sick and suspect that you have COVID-19 but do not yet have test > results." > > If the test is negative, there's no need to isolate. But if it's positive, the CDC says you > still should stay home for at least five days and isolate from others in your home and wear > a high-quality mask such as an N95 or KN95 for 10 days when you must be around others at > home or in public. > > The CDC said you should avoid being around people who are most likely to get very sick from > COVID-19, such as those who are old or have chronic illness, for at least 11 days. > > As before, those who test positive but have no symptoms can end isolation after five days. > Those who have moderate symptoms including difficulty breathing or become hospitalized > should isolate for a full 10 days. > > The looser guidelines come as COVID-19 transmission levels, driven by the now dominant and > immunity-evasive BA.5 omicron variant, are high across 94% of the U.S. and most California > counties, including all of the Bay Area. > > The CDC's COVID-19 "community level" -- a metric introduced last spring that places more > emphasis on the disease's impact on regional medical resources, is high across 42% of the > U.S. and many California counties, including every Bay Area county except Marin. > > But the summer case surge appears to have peaked, and no newer variants have been gaining > ground on BA.5, which has not spurred hospitalizations and deaths as much as earlier > variants. > > The CDC says "it is important to consider the risk in a particular setting, including local > COVID-19 Community Levels and the important role of ventilation, when assessing the need to > maintain physical distance." > > COVID-19 vaccines now are authorized for everyone 6 months old and up, and two-thirds of > Americans and nearly three fourths of Californians are considered fully vaccinated, while > just under half across the U.S. and 55% in California have had at least one vaccine > booster. > > The CDC said "protection provided by the current vaccine against symptomatic infection and > transmission is less than that against severe disease and diminishes over time, especially > against the currently circulating variants." > > "For this reason," the CDC continued, "it is important to stay up to date, especially as > new vaccines become available." > _______________________________________________ > Plan22 mailing list > Plan22 at nfbcal.org > https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Sun Aug 14 10:56:25 2022 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket Bidleman) Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 10:56:25 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] ARTICLE ON NEW CDC GUIDANCE AND COVID In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C89324F-310A-4D3A-BD5D-9E1220A49058@gmail.com> I agree with Jamie. There often is a cold or similar thing that comes after convention, which some call convention crud. I would not want to add Covid to the list, and since a lot of us will be working or schooling after that, it would be wise to have tighter guidelines than we might normally think. Some of us will be going back to staying with our family or friends, and it would not be great to spread Covid to them either. I?m sure that some of you have family or friends who are immunocompromised, so Covid could have disastrous consequences for them. I realize that implementing these guidelines will mean more work for us, but it?s always better to be proactive when it comes to health. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2022, at 09:52, blackbyrdfly at gmail.com wrote: > > ?I think we are on a good and fairly inclusive trajectory with the protocols we are planning, even if CDC guidelines are, for the time being and for a fairly wide variety of reasons, relaxing. In a case like this where health and safety is a concern, and where in person participation is unfortunately necessary for 100% participation, I think planning too much precaution is better than too little. I?ve also yet to attend a conference of a professional nature (or for that matter, a routine doctors appointment, hair appointment, childrens activity or trip to the gym) since COVID that did not go above and beyond CDC?s guidelines at the time with their own protocols. > > Jamie > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 14, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Brian Buhrow wrote: >> >> ? hello planning committee. I came across the following article in the San Jose Mercury >> News yesterday. I thought this article would be of interest to this group because it may >> influence the Covid protocols we implement for this year's state convention. While I >> appreciate Rachel's rigorous set of protocols for this year's convention, I am concerned that >> we're swimming upstream when it comes to imposing more protocols, even as the nation, lead by >> the CDC, is ratcheting the protocols down. this was demonstrated to me on our last planning >> call when Allison observed that the hotel told her they were just following what the CDC said >> when it came to Covid protocols and procedures. As time goes by, the CDC is moving toward a >> position that I would characterize as "Every person for themselves". >> I encourage this committee to read this article, link and text pasted below, and then see >> where we fall, as a committee on these protocols. As Jamie observed a couple of weeks ago, >> this is a moving target and November looks like an eternity away at this point. >> >> >> -Brian >> >> https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/08/11/cdc-eases-covid-19-guidance/ >> >> >> CDC eases COVID-19 guidance. What you need to know >> >> Quarantine no longer recommended after virus exposure >> >> >> A sign at the entrance to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is seen, Tuesday, >> April 19, 2022, in Atlanta. A decision by a federal judge in Florida to throw out a >> national mask mandate for public transportation across the U.S. created a confusing >> patchwork of rules for passengers. The CDC recently extended the mandate, but the court >> decision put the mandate on hold. (AP Photo/Ron Harris) >> A sign at the entrance to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is seen, Tuesday, >> April 19, 2022, in Atlanta. A decision by a federal judge in Florida to throw out a >> national mask mandate for public transportation across the U.S. created a confusing >> patchwork of rules for passengers. The CDC recently extended the mandate, but the court >> decision put the mandate on hold. (AP Photo/Ron Harris) >> By John Woolfolk | jwoolfolk at bayareanewsgroup.com | Bay Area News Group >> PUBLISHED: August 11, 2022 at 12:11 p.m. | UPDATED: August 12, 2022 at 8:05 a.m. >> >> The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention streamlined its guidance Thursday for >> keeping COVID-19 in check, de-emphasizing social distancing, nixing screening tests for >> those without symptoms and no longer recommending that people who aren't current on >> vaccines quarantine after exposure to the virus. >> >> In one of the most significant changes, federal health officials no longer urge people who >> are unvaccinated or haven't had a booster shot to "stay home and quarantine for at least >> five full days" after exposure while advising those current on the vaccine or who had >> recovered from COVID-19 in the past 90 days to only stay home if they had symptoms. >> >> Now, the CDC recommends that everyone -- regardless of vaccination or past infection -- >> "wear a high-quality mask for 10 days and get tested on day five" after exposure to the >> virus. >> >> The guidance revision that has been anticipated for weeks relaxes rules aimed at keeping >> people apart that had made many aspects of social life fraught with anxiety, from weddings >> and concerts to attending school. >> >> "We're in a stronger place today as a nation, with more tools -- like vaccination, >> boosters, and treatments -- to protect ourselves, and our communities, from severe illness >> from COVID-19," Greta Massetti, chief of the CDC's Field Epidemiology and Prevention >> Branch, said in a statement accompanying the announcement. >> >> "We also have a better understanding of how to protect people from being exposed to the >> virus, like wearing high-quality masks, testing, and improved ventilation," Massetti said. >> "This guidance acknowledges that the pandemic is not over, but also helps us move to a >> point where COVID-19 no longer severely disrupts our daily lives." >> >> The new rules also say it's no longer necessary to screen people who have no symptoms or >> known exposure to detect hidden infections among groups of people such as students at >> school. And the agency now says "physical distance is just one component of how to protect >> yourself and others." >> >> U.S. Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona said that means schools won't have to worry >> about maintaining space between desks to reduce outbreaks. >> >> "This latest guidance from the CDC should give our students, parents, and educators the >> confidence they need to head back to school this year with a sense of joy and optimism," >> Cardona said. "While COVID continues to evolve, so has our understanding of the science and >> what it takes to return to school safely." >> >> American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten said she welcomed the changes >> and said that with prevention and treatment options available, "now is not the time for new >> mandates." >> >> On Twitter, Stanford medical school professor Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a vocal critic of >> pandemic lockdowns, applauded the new guidelines for dismantling vaccine segregation and >> "eliminating unnecessary disruptions in the lives of kids this school year." >> >> The CDC said that regardless of vaccination status, "you should isolate from others when >> you have COVID-19" or are "sick and suspect that you have COVID-19 but do not yet have test >> results." >> >> If the test is negative, there's no need to isolate. But if it's positive, the CDC says you >> still should stay home for at least five days and isolate from others in your home and wear >> a high-quality mask such as an N95 or KN95 for 10 days when you must be around others at >> home or in public. >> >> The CDC said you should avoid being around people who are most likely to get very sick from >> COVID-19, such as those who are old or have chronic illness, for at least 11 days. >> >> As before, those who test positive but have no symptoms can end isolation after five days. >> Those who have moderate symptoms including difficulty breathing or become hospitalized >> should isolate for a full 10 days. >> >> The looser guidelines come as COVID-19 transmission levels, driven by the now dominant and >> immunity-evasive BA.5 omicron variant, are high across 94% of the U.S. and most California >> counties, including all of the Bay Area. >> >> The CDC's COVID-19 "community level" -- a metric introduced last spring that places more >> emphasis on the disease's impact on regional medical resources, is high across 42% of the >> U.S. and many California counties, including every Bay Area county except Marin. >> >> But the summer case surge appears to have peaked, and no newer variants have been gaining >> ground on BA.5, which has not spurred hospitalizations and deaths as much as earlier >> variants. >> >> The CDC says "it is important to consider the risk in a particular setting, including local >> COVID-19 Community Levels and the important role of ventilation, when assessing the need to >> maintain physical distance." >> >> COVID-19 vaccines now are authorized for everyone 6 months old and up, and two-thirds of >> Americans and nearly three fourths of Californians are considered fully vaccinated, while >> just under half across the U.S. and 55% in California have had at least one vaccine >> booster. >> >> The CDC said "protection provided by the current vaccine against symptomatic infection and >> transmission is less than that against severe disease and diminishes over time, especially >> against the currently circulating variants." >> >> "For this reason," the CDC continued, "it is important to stay up to date, especially as >> new vaccines become available." >> _______________________________________________ >> Plan22 mailing list >> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 > > _______________________________________________ > Plan22 mailing list > Plan22 at nfbcal.org > https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 From rachel.grider at gmail.com Wed Aug 24 06:42:07 2022 From: rachel.grider at gmail.com (Rachel Grider) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 06:42:07 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] Planning Meeting Tonight Message-ID: <6AAD3305-53E5-4E8E-9ABD-6E8788DD4B43@gmail.com> Good morning, everyone: I?m sorry I?m getting this out so late. Tonight is our next convention planning committee meeting at 8 PM. The Zoom link is below. See you soon! Rachel Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/97914374627?pwd=aVAyV01mQlJ6VEhiTGVON1dYTXE2UT09 Meeting ID: 979 1437 4627 Passcode: 043209 One tap mobile +16694449171,,97914374627# US +16699006833,,97914374627# US (San Jose) Dial by your location +1 669 444 9171 US +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 408 638 0968 US (San Jose) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 719 359 4580 US +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 309 205 3325 US +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 386 347 5053 US +1 564 217 2000 US +1 646 876 9923 US (New York) +1 646 931 3860 US +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) Meeting ID: 979 1437 4627 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/abkhcBoxeV Join by Skype for Business https://zoom.us/skype/97914374627 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Could you resend it as a Word Doc file? -thanks -Brian From cricketbidleman at gmail.com Wed Aug 24 11:44:36 2022 From: cricketbidleman at gmail.com (Cricket X. Bidleman) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 11:44:36 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] First Draft Of Agenda And Notes From Last Committee Meeting In-Reply-To: <202208241842.27OIgjQo002335@nfbcal.org> References: <5C82A99F-77DA-4021-BB9B-ADFAFA1DB005@gmail.com> <202208241842.27OIgjQo002335@nfbcal.org> Message-ID: There are two attachments. The second one is a word doc. On 8/24/22, Brian Buhrow wrote: > hello Rachel. I notice you sent the agenda out as a Pages file. Could you > resend it as a > Word Doc file? > -thanks > -Brian > > _______________________________________________ > Plan22 mailing list > Plan22 at nfbcal.org > https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 > -- Cricket X. Bidleman, B.A (she/her/hers) M.A Candidate | Stanford Journalism Class of 2022 Co-Chair | Stanford Daily Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Committee Member | Blind Advisory Committee, California Department of Vocational rehabilitation From buhrow at nfbcal.org Wed Aug 24 11:48:16 2022 From: buhrow at nfbcal.org (Brian Buhrow) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 11:48:16 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] First Draft Of Agenda And Notes From Last Committee Meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <202208241848.27OImGMh017077@nfbcal.org> hello Cricket. Yes, I see the second attachment. the second attachment is a copy of the minutes from the last planning meeting. The first attachment is a draft convention agenda, which is what we're supposed to be paying the most attention to this evening. -thanks -Brian From rachel.grider at gmail.com Wed Aug 24 11:48:57 2022 From: rachel.grider at gmail.com (Rachel Grider) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 11:48:57 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] First Draft Of Agenda And Notes From Last Committee Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <5C82A99F-77DA-4021-BB9B-ADFAFA1DB005@gmail.com> <202208241842.27OIgjQo002335@nfbcal.org> Message-ID: <07C10C1A-E28B-4D41-B40F-CF9CB59316CF@gmail.com> Oh, thank you for pointing that out. I forgot to export the Pages file. > On Aug 24, 2022, at 11:44 AM, Cricket X. Bidleman wrote: > > There are two attachments. The second one is a word doc. > > On 8/24/22, Brian Buhrow wrote: >> hello Rachel. I notice you sent the agenda out as a Pages file. Could you >> resend it as a >> Word Doc file? >> -thanks >> -Brian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plan22 mailing list >> Plan22 at nfbcal.org >> https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 >> > > > -- > Cricket X. Bidleman, B.A (she/her/hers) > M.A Candidate | Stanford Journalism Class of 2022 > Co-Chair | Stanford Daily Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Committee > Member | Blind Advisory Committee, California Department of Vocational > rehabilitation > _______________________________________________ > Plan22 mailing list > Plan22 at nfbcal.org > https://web.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/plan22 From rachel.grider at gmail.com Wed Aug 24 11:51:04 2022 From: rachel.grider at gmail.com (Rachel Grider) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 11:51:04 -0700 Subject: [Plan22] Here is the agenda draft in Word format. Message-ID: <9970EC92-65E6-47EC-9D12-FAD5AF62DF82@gmail.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Secondly, Cabs Dan and parents will all have more than 25 people for their meetings we should discuss tonight how we can work that out so that they are in a room that is more than 25 people. See you tonight! Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter 818-381-9568 Kn6uvd > On Aug 24, 2022, at 11:52 AM, Rachel Grider wrote: > > ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I?m not sure how to remedy the situation of the 25 person capacity for the rooms, as we don?t have much to work with besides those small rooms. We can talk about them tonight. We could potentially use the general session ballroom for things when general session and parents are not happening, but there is not much time when it will be available. Tim would like to have a breakout session on Saturday, so I wanted to make sure we had worked that in. We also may be able to use the hospitality suite for some things? But I don?t know how big that?s going to be yet. > On Aug 24, 2022, at 11:58, robert stigile wrote: > > ?Rachel, > So I have looked over the agenda and most of it looks good to me. > However, I thought we had talked about not having a breakout sessions other than the divisional meeting. > Secondly, Cabs Dan and parents will all have more than 25 people for their meetings we should discuss tonight how we can work that out so that they are in a room that is more than 25 people. See you tonight! > > Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President > National Federation of the Blind of California > President San Fernando Valley Chapter > 818-381-9568 > Kn6uvd > >> On Aug 24, 2022, at 11:52 AM, Rachel Grider wrote: >> >> ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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