[Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

Fri Mar 27 11:53:35 PDT 2009

Hi Robert,

Thanks for the response. I understand that we did not draft this letter.
Having these sorts of letters drafted and handed to you to simply sign
is standard practice. 

What I'm curious about is. Is it the letter we do not like, or is it the
legislation? If we simply don't like the letter, we are not obligated to
keep it. We can throw this letter away and redraft our own. This is just
a suggested letter they gave us to make our lives easier. It happens all
the time. What I'd like to get at is do we "NFBC or CAGDU) support the
legislation on its merits. If so, let's send our own letter. If not, we
can send a letter in opposition. Both I feel are important in this
process. Weather we agree with the legislation or not, our voice, as the
NFBC, needs to be heard in Sacramento. 

Respectfully,

Jonathan Lyens

Jonathan T. Lyens MPA 
Email: jonathan at lyens.com 
Fax: (321) 256-8896 
Skype: jlyens 
-----Original Message-----
From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On
Behalf Of Robert Stigile
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 11:34 AM
To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

Hello Jonathan,
My concerns, were that a letter was drafted without us being 
consulted, but as I have learned, that was not the case.
This is a draft letter as Shannon stated, by the Guide Dog board.
I do not support it.
Thanks,

Robert Stigile

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jonathan Lyens" <jonathan at lyens.com
>To: <cagdu at nfbcal.org
>Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:58:06 -0400
>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

>Hi All,

>I've heard through this discussion that there are people that 
have
>"concerns" about the draft letter sent.  I'm wondering if 
examples of
>where those concerns are in the letter can be pointed out.  I 
think if we
>have examples of people's concerns, we can have a more in depth
>discussion.

>I am not saying how I feel about this letter, because I truly 
don't
>know.  I have not had a chance to read the legislation it is in 
support
>of.  But, I'd like to hear colleagues tangible concerns in order 
to
>discuss.

>Respectfully,

>Jonathan

>Jonathan T.  Lyens MPA

>Email: jonathan at lyens.com

>Fax: (321) 256-8896

>Skype: jlyens

>________________________________

>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] 
On
>Behalf Of Shannon L.  Dillon
>Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:44 AM
>To: CAGDU
>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

>Sorry for the confusion.

>SHANNON L.  DILLON

>> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:22 -0700
>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net
>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

>> Hello Shannon,
>> I appreciate you letting me know that.
>> I was quite concerned when I saw that letter.
>> Thanks,

>> Robert Stigile

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Shannon L.  Dillon" <shannonldillon at hotmail.com
>>>To: CAGDU <cagdu at nfbcal.org
>>>Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700
>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

>>>Hi Robert:

>>>No, Mary did not write the letter.  Antonette, or someone from
>> the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign
>> onto.  They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter.  I
>> think they must have provided that draft letter like we provide
>> draft letters sometimes to people to make it easier for them to
>> support something.  Like the draft letter we provided in support
>> of Fred Schroeder this year.  Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter
>> onto to me to share with CAGDU and respond to.  She did not
>> support the letter.  She said that she has told Antonette that
>> she does not think we can support the Board.  I don't know why
>> Mary's name is on the letter.  Maybe whoever wrote the draft
>> included it on there.  But Mary did not write the letter
>> supporting the board.

>>>SHANNON L.  DILLON

>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700
>>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net
>>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

>>>> Hello Shannon,
>>>> Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that
>> showed
>>>> a letter from Mary in support of this bill.
>>>> Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I
>>>> see.
>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Robert Stigile

>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Shannon L.  Dillon" <shannonldillon at hotmail.com
>>>>>To: CAGDU <cagdu at nfbcal.org
>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

>>>>>I do not support the letter.  I think they make a lot of
>>>> statements that they cannot back up in that letter.  I think we
>>>> definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not
>>>> support it.

>>>>>SHANNON L.  DILLON

>>>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700
>>>>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support
>>>> this
>>>>>> letter.
>>>>>> I would like to know, what the rest of you think.
>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>> Robert Stigile

>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "tina thomas " <tinadt at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>To: <cagdu at nfbcal.org
>>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

>>>>>>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification.  I wonder what gave
>>>>>> the board the
>>>>>>>idea that NFBC would support this bill.
>>>>>>>Tina

>>>>>>>"Trust your own instinct.  Your mistakes might as well be your
>>>>>> own instead of
>>>>>>>someone else's."
>>>>>>>- Billy Wilder

>>>>>>> _____

>>>>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf
>>>>>>>Of Shannon L.  Dillon
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM
>>>>>>>To: CAGDU
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

>>>>>>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support.  It is a draft
>>>>>> letter written
>>>>>>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind.  They were hoping
>>>>>> we would
>>>>>>>sign on to it.

>>>>>>>SHANNON L.  DILLON

>>>>>>> _____

>>>>>>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
>>>>>>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

>>>>>>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support
>>>>>> by the NFBC.
>>>>>>>Mary did not write this letter of support?
>>>>>>>Tina

>>>>>>>"Trust your own instinct.  Your mistakes might as well be your
>>>>>> own instead of
>>>>>>>someone else's."
>>>>>>>- Billy Wilder

>>>>>>> _____

>>>>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf
>>>>>>>Of Shannon L.  Dillon
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM
>>>>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org
>>>>>>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla)

>>>>>>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I
>>>>>> meant to be
>>>>>>>included last time.  Don't know what happened before....

>>>>>>>SHANNON L.  DILLON

>>>>>>> _____

>>>>>>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com
>>>>>>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla)
>>>>>>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700

>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov
>>>>>>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla)

>>>>>>>Mary:

>>>>>>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone
>>>>>> today.  The
>>>>>>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment
>>>>>> legislation.
>>>>>>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's
>>>>>> school renewal
>>>>>>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation.  The bill
>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>accessed online at
>>>>>>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475
>>>>>>><http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475&sess
>>>>>> =CUR&house=
>>>>>>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen

>>>>>>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along
>>>>>> with an
>>>>>>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California.  Thank you
>>>>>> for your
>>>>>>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend.

>>>>>>>Antonette Sorrick
>>>>>>>Executive Officer
>>>>>>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind
>>>>>>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202
>>>>>>>Sacramento, CA 95834
>>>>>>>(916) 574-7825 phone
>>>>>>>(916) 574-7829 fax
>>>>>>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov
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