From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 2 18:22:04 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:22:04 -0800 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: Service dog for child's peanut allergy Message-ID: <200903030248.n232mv2B006102@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Subject: Service dog for child's peanut allergy On the Scent: Dogs Sniff Out Peanuts Man's Best Friend Brings Safety to a Childhood Plagued by a Severe Food Allergy By NEAL KARLINSKY MONUMENT, Colo., March 2, 2009- Riley Mers and her Portuguese water dog Rock'O seem like any ordinary pair, but nothing about this 8-year-old girl and her pet is ordinary. "It might look to you like it's a kid playing with a dog," said Riley's mother, Sherry Mers. "To me, that's a dog that's saving my daughter's life while they're playing." Riley's peanut allergy is so severe that if the Monument, Colo., girl even touches something with peanut residue it is enough to send her to the hospital. "I got a peanut shell caught in my sandal when I was really little, and they almost had to do a skin graft on me," she said. "It felt like a hundred ants bit me and stung me." If she were to eat something with peanuts in it, Riley would have about six minutes to reach the hospital before her body would go into shock. "Her case is about as bad as they come," said Dr. Daniel Soteres, a Colorado Springs allergy and immunology specialist. "An exposure to peanut could be a life-threatening event to her." Enter Rock'O and a new approach to help safeguard kids with severe food allergies. Rock'O is one of a half-dozen dogs in the country trained to detect the presence of peanuts and protect their owners from serious allergic reactions. "Training a peanut allergy dog to sniff out peanuts is much like training a dog to do narcotics or bomb sniffing," said Tina Rivero, head trainer of Angel Service Dogs in Monument. "It's just a different scent that they are hitting on. Instead of the marijuana or the cocaine or the bomb, they are actually finding the peanut." Dealing with peanut allergies is not new for most schools, but the severity of Riley's allergy has presented some special challenges. To keep herself protected from peanut residue in class, Riley used to have to wear gloves. Now, night and day, Rock'O goes everywhere with her. "I've gone to school and not had to ask all my classmates like I do every single time, 'Have you eaten peanut butter?'" she said. "With him [Rock'O], I can have a little bit of free will. I don't feel scared anymore about what I'm going to eat." Peanut-Sniffing Dog Searches Lunchroom The first week of school with Rock'O, Sherry Mers took the friendly Portuguese water dog to the cafeteria for a safety check. Rock'O sniffed the tables and floor, scanning for any trace of peanuts left from anyone's lunch. Finding peanut residue on the lunchroom table, he sits in his "alert" position -- a stance he's been trained to make to let Riley know that he's found something she should avoid. For Riley and her family, Rock'O is more than just an added safeguard -- he's freedom and a chance at a normal childhood. "I can actually go to the mall. I can actually go to bowling alleys," she said. "I'm wanting to go to college, and I'm going to be able to." A highly trained dog like Rock'O can cost anywhere between $10,000 and $15,000, which was more than the Mers family could afford. But when friends and family heard about the possibility, they came forward with donations to help. "I never in a million years dreamed that there were so many kind people that just totally wanted to help a child," Sherry Mers said. Until now, a deadly allergy has always held Riley back in life. Now, Rock'O has taken this little girl off her leash. "This isn't just freedom for today, this is her first date without her mom," Sherry Mers said. "This is her getting to do things on her own without us constantly being her shadow." Source: http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=6990365 _______________________________________________ nagdu mailing list nagdu at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/tinadt%40sbcglobal.ne t No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1979 - Release Date: 3/1/2009 5:46 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1979 - Release Date: 3/1/2009 5:46 PM From kenvolonte at comcast.net Wed Mar 4 18:35:39 2009 From: kenvolonte at comcast.net (Ken Volonte) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:35:39 -0800 Subject: [Cagdu] John Vandervort's day in court? Message-ID: <8D6EBDBE8F5F4C7BBF74CFC1A6C82FB5@ken5f734aa928e> Today was the day for John Vandervort to present his case in court. He was there, and the girl friend of the attacking Pit bull's owner was there; and wanting to be a nice guy, John decided to try mediation. But when the mediators started questioning his need for a guide dog bein's as how John could see a little, well that was too much. New court date is March 25th. Proceedings were cut short because a judge was stabbed during a murder trial and they had to lock the court house down. You can't make this stuff up. Seriously though, does anyone have the text of the law that covers attacks on service animals? From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 6 10:36:27 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:36:27 -0800 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: [eye exams for service dogs Message-ID: <120304.26295.bm@omp420.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: eye exams for service dogs The American College of Veterinary Ophthalmologists is hosting its 2nd ACVO National Service Dog Eye Exam Day, May 4-8, 2009. In 2008 the event provided free eye screening examinations to over 1,500 Service Dogs. Please pass on the word to qualified candidates to help us meet our goal of examining 5,000 dogs in 2009. Veterinary ophthalmologists across the US and Canada will be participating in the program. Dogs that qualify include: handicapped assistance dogs, detection dogs, police dogs, search and rescue dogs, and therapy dogs that are Delta Society certified. Dogs must be active 'working dogs' that were certified by a formal training program or organization or currently enrolled in a formal training program. Those that were examined in the 2008 event are welcome to participate again in 2009. 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Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 3/6/2009 7:20 AM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090306/86a28360/attachment.html From snowbird170 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 6 13:21:53 2009 From: snowbird170 at yahoo.com (Karmalynne) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:21:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Cagdu] John Vandervort's day in court? In-Reply-To: <8D6EBDBE8F5F4C7BBF74CFC1A6C82FB5@ken5f734aa928e> Message-ID: <202446.5577.qm@web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Ken, I wish John all the best. Karmalynne skype: klrios MSN Messenger: christmaskarma70 at hotmail.com Email:ladymusic1970 at hotmail.com (music requests only) Listen to my show on www.2020theblink.net Sun. 10pm-1am pacific time and Fri. 1pm-4pm pacific time. --- On Wed, 3/4/09, Ken Volonte wrote: > From: Ken Volonte > Subject: [Cagdu] John Vandervort's day in court? > To: "Cagdu" > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 6:35 PM > Today was the day for John Vandervort to present his case in > court. He was > there, and the girl friend of the attacking Pit bull's > owner was there; and > wanting to be a nice guy, John decided to try mediation. > But when the > mediators started questioning his need for a guide dog > bein's as how John > could see a little, well that was too much. New court date > is March 25th. > > Proceedings were cut short because a judge was stabbed > during a murder > trial and they had to lock the court house down. You > can't make this stuff > up. > > Seriously though, does anyone have the text of the law > that covers > attacks on service animals? > > _______________________________________________ > Cagdu mailing list > Cagdu at nfbcal.org > https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu From rstigile at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 6 16:19:21 2009 From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net (Robert Stigile) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:19:21 -0800 Subject: [Cagdu] W-rose Message-ID: <200903070045.n270jvUj003575@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Hello Cagdu Community, I am writing to let you know, that today is W-rose's birthday. She is 3 years old. She has enjoyed the afternoon, by running around the back yard, playing with her toys and soon her puppy raiser will be coming by with a Birthday present. I hope everyone is doing well, and we will talk to you soon. Take care, Robert Stigile From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 6 16:48:02 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:48:02 -0800 Subject: [Cagdu] W-rose In-Reply-To: <200903070045.n270jvUj003575@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Message-ID: <200903070114.n271EpMi002898@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Happy Birthday Rose. >From Tina and Dixie -----Original Message----- From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Robert Stigile Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:19 PM To: Juliet Cody Subject: [Cagdu] W-rose Hello Cagdu Community, I am writing to let you know, that today is W-rose's birthday. She is 3 years old. She has enjoyed the afternoon, by running around the back yard, playing with her toys and soon her puppy raiser will be coming by with a Birthday present. I hope everyone is doing well, and we will talk to you soon. Take care, Robert Stigile _______________________________________________ Cagdu mailing list Cagdu at nfbcal.org https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 3/6/2009 7:20 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 3/6/2009 7:20 AM From rstigile at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 6 17:23:13 2009 From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net (Robert Stigile) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:23:13 -0800 Subject: [Cagdu] W-rose Message-ID: <809717.95814.bm@omp410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Tina, So I have to ask, is that a whisling Dixie? Robert Stigile > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "tina thomas " To: Date sent: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:48:02 -0800 >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] W-rose >Happy Birthday Rose. >>From Tina and Dixie >-----Original Message----- >From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf >Of Robert Stigile >Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:19 PM >To: Juliet Cody >Subject: [Cagdu] W-rose >Hello Cagdu Community, >I am writing to let you know, that today is W-rose's birthday. >She is 3 years old. >She has enjoyed the afternoon, by running around the back yard, playing with >her toys and soon her puppy raiser will be coming by with a Birthday >present. >I hope everyone is doing well, and we will talk to you soon. >Take care, >Robert Stigile >_______________________________________________ >Cagdu mailing list >Cagdu at nfbcal.org >https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 3/6/2009 >7:20 AM >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 3/6/2009 >7:20 AM >_______________________________________________ >Cagdu mailing list >Cagdu at nfbcal.org >https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 6 17:56:07 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:56:07 -0800 Subject: [Cagdu] W-rose In-Reply-To: <809717.95814.bm@omp410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <174965.12143.bm@omp407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes Dixie can be winy at times LOL. -----Original Message----- From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Robert Stigile Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 5:23 PM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: Re: [Cagdu] W-rose Hello Tina, So I have to ask, is that a whisling Dixie? Robert Stigile > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "tina thomas " To: Date sent: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:48:02 -0800 >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] W-rose >Happy Birthday Rose. >>From Tina and Dixie >-----Original Message----- >From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf >Of Robert Stigile >Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:19 PM >To: Juliet Cody >Subject: [Cagdu] W-rose >Hello Cagdu Community, >I am writing to let you know, that today is W-rose's birthday. >She is 3 years old. >She has enjoyed the afternoon, by running around the back yard, playing with >her toys and soon her puppy raiser will be coming by with a Birthday >present. >I hope everyone is doing well, and we will talk to you soon. >Take care, >Robert Stigile >_______________________________________________ >Cagdu mailing list >Cagdu at nfbcal.org >https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 3/6/2009 >7:20 AM >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 3/6/2009 >7:20 AM >_______________________________________________ >Cagdu mailing list >Cagdu at nfbcal.org >https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu _______________________________________________ Cagdu mailing list Cagdu at nfbcal.org https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 3/6/2009 7:20 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 3/6/2009 7:20 AM From julietcody at cox.net Sat Mar 7 10:03:10 2009 From: julietcody at cox.net (Juliett Cody) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:03:10 -0800 Subject: [Cagdu] W-rose References: <200903070045.n270jvUj003575@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Message-ID: Hello w-Rose! Happy Birthday! You are a wonderful worker, and I love your hair and personality! Love, M and JC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Stigile" To: "Juliet Cody" Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:19 PM Subject: [Cagdu] W-rose > Hello Cagdu Community, > I am writing to let you know, that today is W-rose's birthday. > She is 3 years old. > She has enjoyed the afternoon, by running around the back yard, > playing with her toys and soon her puppy raiser will be coming by > with a Birthday present. > I hope everyone is doing well, and we will talk to you soon. > Take care, > > > Robert Stigile > _______________________________________________ > Cagdu mailing list > Cagdu at nfbcal.org > https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3917 (20090307) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 8 11:18:22 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:18:22 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: Animal Advocate Calls Blind Guide Dog Users Cruel &unfit Message-ID: <162983.75835.bm@omp422.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Animal Advocate Calls Blind Guide Dog Users Cruel &unfit Animal Advocate Calls Blind Guide Dog Users Cruel &unfit, PETA, Off-Base or Playing to Public Fear? Donna W. Hill The American Advocate March 07, 2009 "We oppose most seeing-eye-dog programs," says Daphna Nachminovitch, PETA's vice president for Cruelty Investigations, in an interview with the LA Times? "LA Unleashed." http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/2009/01/when-we-first-r ...html E mail PETA at: DaphnaN at peta.org Nachminovitch?s objections go beyond PETA?s distaste for breeding programs. "They are kept in harnesses almost 24/7, people are prohibited from petting or playing with them and they cannot romp and run and interact with other dogs." PETA also claims that schools force blind people to return their retired dogs. Nachminovitch doubts the fitness of most blind people to care for their animals, "A deaf person can see if a dog has a medical issue such as blood in her urine, a blind person living alone cannot." PETA?s solution would return blind people to lives of dependence; "The human community should do more to support blind people, and give dogs a break. ." Outraged guide dog handlers and puppy raisers from many schools commented on latimes.com refuting every point. Letters to the editor and Op-Ed pieces were submitted to the Los Angeles Times. Some people, like Tampa-based clinical hypnotherapist, professional musician and speaker Marion Gwizdala,, president of the National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU) http://www.nfb-nagdu.org/ wrote to Nachminovitch directly. "The biggest problem we face as blind people," writes Gwizdala, who holds a Master of Science degree in mental health counseling and has been in practice since 1996, "is misunderstanding and lack of information. It is unfortunate that you choose to promulgate the myths that create barriers to our full inclusion in society. " Are Nachminovitch?s comments adding to an underlying bigotry toward blind people? Unemployment among working-age blind Americans is seventy percent. Blind Americans are also more likely to be underemployed and living in poverty. Nonetheless, there are blind lawyers, engineers, chemists, doctors, mechanics, teachers, parents, etc. Why the disparity? Many believe that it all boils down to the changing nature of what it means to be blind. Throughout history, there have always been blind people who have insisted upon living productive and independent lives. The ancient Greek poet Homer, English poet John Milton and American author James Thurber were all blind. Most Americans are familiar with the accomplishments of Helen Keller. The fact, however, that she is the only blind woman most people can name and that she died over fifty years ago speaks volumes about the added obstacles society places in the paths of blind women. PETA's solution of having sighted people take over for guide dogs, insulting as it is, simply mirrors the prevailing social attitudes. Despite changes in legislation and a revolution in technology which allows blind people to participate more fully in all aspects of modern life, popular sentiment continues to paint blindness as a sentence to dependence and uselessness. The truth came out in a Louis Harris poll done in 1991. The National Organization on Disability (NOD) commissioned them to find out what America really thought about people with disabilities. The survey summary, quoted from NOD's 1992 book "That All May Worship," edited by Ginny Thornburgh, states, "The public views disabled people as fundamentally different than the rest of the population, feeling admiration and pity most often. Embarrassment, apathy and fear are also common." We will probably never know PETA's true motivations for making these statements. Nachminovitch's remarks are so all-inclusive, so concise and so thoroughly off-base that it is hard to believe they were not deliberately calculated to prompt donations from dog lovers who are either unfamiliar with guide dog programs or uncomfortable with blind people and misinformed about their capabilities. It is possible, of course, that she nurtures a habit of willful ignorance and is not inclined to investigate anything she speaks about. In either case, PETA's bullying of blind people seems a waste of resources. The thought that schools would force blind people to give up their beloved helpers is anathema to many guide dog users. Schools have retirement programs but they are voluntary. They exist to take up the slack in cases where a blind person can neither keep their retired guide nor find a suitable home among friends and family. "More often than not," Gwizdala continues, "our dogs live out their lives with their blind caretakers. My previous guide dog worked until he was fourteen years old and lived out the remainder of his sixteen years with me." Gwizdala, who is also the music director at New Life Unity Church in Tampa, is working with Louiza, his twelve-year-old German Shepherd/Collie mix. He performs under the stage name "Marion & Martin" ? a reference to his Martin guitar ? and is recording his second solo album, a collection of original songs, covers and contemporary arrangements of traditional music in the new thought genre. Visit Marion's web site at: http://marionandmartin.com Cheryl Echevarria (42) of Long Island, New York is a certified medical insurance specialist and medical biller. Maxx, her three-year-old black Labrador retriever from the Guide Dog Foundation for the Blind (Smithtown, NY), is Cheryl's first guide dog. "Hold on there," she says in response to PETA's idea that guide dogs aren't given any affection and are forced to wear their harnesses 24/7, "Yes I use my dog when I walk to the bus and go out shopping, or any place I go to be independent. But even when I am at work, Maxx has a nice comfy spot under my desk. No, he doesn't need to be tied down, and no, he doesn't sit there all day with his harness on. I take it off and he sleeps or chews on his bone until I need to go somewhere with him." Cheryl works at Sunrise Medical and was the first visually impaired person to graduate from Branford Hall Career Institute in medical billing. She is a member of New York's Association of Guide Dog Users, and treasurer of the Greater Long Island chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of New York: http://www.NFBNY.org She recently started a group for one of her favorite activities, cooking. The Blind Cooks e mail list is a place where people can exchange ideas about techniques, equipment, accessibility issues and other topics of interest to blind cooks as well as professionals in the culinary arts and those who wish to enter the field. For more information go to, http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-cooks_nfbnet.org Guide dog schools all teach handlers not to allow people to pet the dogs when in harness. There is a difference between work and play, and it is safer when people respect that. Guide dog handlers regularly report that people approach them while the dog is in harness and pet the dog without even saying hello. Most people ask to pet an unfamiliar dog and respect the person?s wishes. If they say no, they don't pet the dog anyway or assume that no one ever pets that particular dog. The fact that this is what happens when strangers encounter guide dogs is evidence that blind people are not respected as independent adults. "When we are home," says Echevarria, who has a twenty-year-old daughter, three grown stepchildren and four grandchildren, "he runs around the house like any dog. Plays in the backyard, and gets spoiled by my husband and my daughter and any friends that come in contact with us." Cheryl, who is legally blind due to diabetic retinopathy, had a kidney transplant from a living donor in 2005. She belongs to the Diabetic Action network (DAN): http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Diabetics.asp?SnID=2100697185 DAN is a resource for all diabetics especially those with vision loss. Blind diabetics can and do accurately draw up insulin and monitor blood glucose levels. Are blind people, many of whom monitor their own serious health conditions like diabetes, unqualified to meet the health needs of their dogs as PETA implies? The comments made to me by my first guide's vet in Philadelphia echo across the decades. One of his professors at the University of Pennsylvania's School of Veterinary Medicine said that if a blind person brings in their guide dog and tells you they think something's wrong and you can't find anything, keep looking. For a less anecdotal and more current perspective, we need look no further than the November 2008 report "Guide Dog Health Survey" by the Morris Animal Foundation (MAF): http://www.morrisanimalfoundation.org/pdf/GuideDogHealthSurvey-FI NAL_12-12-08.pdf MAF, which was started in 1948 as the Buddy Foundation to address the health needs of the first guide dog, has since funded over 1,600 research studies benefiting animals around the world. Concerned that health information for adult guide dogs was scarce, they conducted a survey, not of veterinarians, spouses, parents or the lady down the street but of guide dog users themselves. It is the first of its kind and intended to serve as a base-line for future surveys. Their care in preparing and pre-testing an online survey that was easy for screen reader users to complete was matched by not only the breadth of the study but the many opportunities for guide dog users to comment freely about their concerns and experiences. The 1,000+ survey participants gave over 11,500 open-ended comments, prompting the report's author, Patricia Olson, DVM, Ph.D. (MAF's President/CEO), to write: Block quote Guide dog teams have been referred to as the gold standard for a bond between a person and his or her dog. Handlers provide love and care to their dogs; the dogs provide independence and loyalty to their handler. The overwhelming response to the survey made it abundantly clear just how much guide dog handlers appreciate and love their dogs. Any work that allows these wonderful teams to enjoy even better health and wellness is very important to MAF. After all, it was important in our past to help Buddy and remains important in our future to give all guide dogs better health. Block quote end Blind people share PETA?s concern for unwanted dogs. PETA, however, doesn?t acknowledge that most guide dog schools have already tried using shelter dogs. Too many shelter dogs failed the programs, adding to the cost of training. Breeding programs provide healthier dogs with the aptitude and temperament for the work. Guide dogs perform advanced tasks, avoiding overhanging obstacles, navigating public transportation and moving safely through crowded pedestrian and vehicular traffic. They can find specific locations, when trained with patience and praise. Here again, comments from MAF's survey underscore the validity of dedicated breeding programs, "In fact, guide dog schools have often been a model for evaluating health trends and reducing disease through appropriate breeding." A form letter from Heidi Parker, PETA?s Mail Coordinator, sent to people like Gwizdala and myself, back-pedals on Nachminovitch?s remarks. "Our comments were not meant to reflect badly on people who use or train guide dogs." One wonders whether Ms Parker actually read her boss's remarks. If she did, what else does she think Nachminovitch would have had to say, if she had "intended" to reflect badly on guide dog programs and those who benefit from them? . From the selfless people who raise them as puppies ? the family of the Hudson River hero pilot Sully Sullenberger among them ? to the volunteers in the kennels and the trainers themselves, many dog lovers participate in the care and training of guide dogs. If cruelty was endemic in the programs, wouldn't someone have spoken out before now? Echevarria has some advice for the LA Times, "people who write such articles should go to the schools and speak to the professionals about the training." She also has parting thoughts for PETA, "I hope you never go blind and need a dog. I also say that you should learn from the experts before you open your mouths and stick your foot in." PETA has not seen fit to make a public apology, and the LA Times has yet to respond. Print Share Email Your Name Recipient's Name Recipient's Email Donna W. Hill Donna W. Hill is an author, singer/songwriter, recording artist, speaker and avid knitter in rural Pennsylvania. Donna started her music career as a street performer in Philadelphia?s Suburban Station, a center city commuter hub, where she sang for thirteen years. Hear clips from her third recording, "The Last Straw" at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/donnahill Born blind from Retinitis Pigmentosa, she has a black Lab guide dog named Hunter. He is her forth guide from the Guide Dog Foundation for the Blind in Smithtown, NY. She taught herself to read Braille after graduating from college with a BA in English Lit. She uses a computer with the popular screen reader, Jaws for Windows. Donna works to foster understanding of and improve opportunities for blind Americans, as a volunteer publicist for the nonprofit Performing Arts Division of the National Federation of the Blind: http://www.padnfb.org An 18-year breast cancer survivor who found both tumors herself, she also promotes self-exam. Her articles cover a wide range of topics including politics, literature and humor. She is working on her first novel -- a fantasy. Her other interests include playing piano and guitar, writing music, knitting afghans for her local interfaith ministries and traveling with her husband Rich and Hunter. 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To make the skies a little friendlier, and safer, a pack of guide dogs in training gathered at a United Airlines training facility to take a simulated flight -- a flight with a surprise ending. "The main purpose was to get our dogs used to boarding and deplaning and to getting into a seat and curling up into the space allowed for them," says Danny Henderson, who volunteers raising puppies to become guide dogs for the blind. Henderson volunteers with Have Paws Will Travel, the group that organized the trip to the Denver training facility. At her side is Gilligan, a 10-month-old yellow Labrador retriever puppy. Henderson takes Gilligan everywhere with her: shopping, sporting events, even to church. All the while she is preparing the pup to work as a guide dog by exposing him to all of the experiences a guide dog will have. If Gilligan does well, he will be matched with a blind partner and the pair will go through four to five months of more extensive training on the California campus of Guide Dogs for the Blind, a non-profit that supplies blind people with guide dogs free of charge. Inside the United Airlines facility sits a real fuselage from a Boeing 767 jet. About 20 dogs and their handlers file in, the dogs nestling under the seats. Gilligan is curious at first but quickly loses interest in his new environment and rests his head on the floor with a sigh. A few aisles up sits Annette Bossert and her year-old dog Ludlow. He nervously looks from side to side between Bossert's legs, not too sure what's going on. "He's what we call a 'soft dog' in that he is very sensitive to certain environments,-" says Bossert. "He might react a little bit more than some dogs, showing a little bit of fear, a little bit of anxiety." If a dog is too easily spooked it might be "career changed," and instead of moving on to work with a blind person they will be adopted, often by the volunteer handler. The doors of the fuselage close and the familiar rumble of an airplane taxiing begins. The dogs stay in place, seemingly disinterested in the mock flight. And then out go the lights! Video Watch the dogs in action aboard the plane ? "Brace! Brace!" shouts a flight attendant. The plane is crash landing. The alarm blares, the cabin jolts from side to side. "Get out! Leave everything!" Everyone must evacuate the plane as quickly as possible, dogs included. One by one, the dogs lead their handlers to safety. Amazingly, not a single dog panics, or even barks. "I noticed a lot of the dogs probably did better than the people. They were very relaxed, business as usual," says Danny Henderson with a laugh while Gilligan stands obediently at her side. "He's been doing great. He's a very smart dog, he's learned very quickly. I think he'll do great." And how did Ludlow, the sensitive "soft dog," do? "He did great," says Bossert. "This is awesome. I may not have a chance to fly with him so for him to just see the cabin environment and know he has to go into a confined space and be calm is good for him." According to Guide Dogs for the Blind, about 10,000 blind people in the United States use guide dogs, and many of them are frequent fliers. "The first time they fly they are like: 'This is a little odd,' " says Aerial Gilbert, who is blind and flies with her German shepherd Splash several times a month. She thinks the training will help the pups become better guide dogs. "Things they learn as a puppy are no big deal. It's harder when they get older." At the helm of the mock 767 is Capt. Robert Mackay. He's in charge of training for United Airlines and still flies regularly. He watches the exercise carefully. He says the odds of a plane crash with a guide dog and human partner on board are rare, but preparing for the unexpected is the name of the game. "Having dogs on board the airplane and blind people on the airplane represent a special challenge for us," he says. "This is all about the 'what if,' risk management, being ready in the unlikely event that this would occur." All About Dogs ? 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"Having dogs on board the airplane and blind people on the airplane represent a special challenge for us," he says. I can think of little that could be more insulting about this process. Blind people have long been second class passengers on airplanes. This quote exemplifies the rampant custodialism that exists throughout the airline industry. I wish the school would have had an opportunity to do some re-education. If not, perhaps a formal response from CAGDU could help? I'm interested in hearing others thoughts. Best- Jonathan Jonathan T. Lyens MPA Email: jonathan at lyens.com Fax: (321) 256-8896 Skype: jlyens ________________________________ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of tina thomas Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:46 PM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] FW: CNN: Guide dogs trained to handle plane emergencies Subject: CNN: Guide dogs trained to handle plane emergencies Click the link to view the page containing pictures and video. http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/03/12/dogs.on.a.plane/ Guide dogs trained to handle plane emergencies By Jim Spellman CNN DENVER, Colorado (CNN) -- Guide dogs for the blind go everywhere with their human partners, but when their destination is a plane ride away, it's not always so easy. To make the skies a little friendlier, and safer, a pack of guide dogs in training gathered at a United Airlines training facility to take a simulated flight -- a flight with a surprise ending. "The main purpose was to get our dogs used to boarding and deplaning and to getting into a seat and curling up into the space allowed for them," says Danny Henderson, who volunteers raising puppies to become guide dogs for the blind. Henderson volunteers with Have Paws Will Travel, the group that organized the trip to the Denver training facility. At her side is Gilligan, a 10-month-old yellow Labrador retriever puppy. Henderson takes Gilligan everywhere with her: shopping, sporting events, even to church. All the while she is preparing the pup to work as a guide dog by exposing him to all of the experiences a guide dog will have. If Gilligan does well, he will be matched with a blind partner and the pair will go through four to five months of more extensive training on the California campus of Guide Dogs for the Blind, a non-profit that supplies blind people with guide dogs free of charge. Inside the United Airlines facility sits a real fuselage from a Boeing 767 jet. About 20 dogs and their handlers file in, the dogs nestling under the seats. Gilligan is curious at first but quickly loses interest in his new environment and rests his head on the floor with a sigh. A few aisles up sits Annette Bossert and her year-old dog Ludlow. He nervously looks from side to side between Bossert's legs, not too sure what's going on. "He's what we call a 'soft dog' in that he is very sensitive to certain environments," says Bossert. "He might react a little bit more than some dogs, showing a little bit of fear, a little bit of anxiety." If a dog is too easily spooked it might be "career changed," and instead of moving on to work with a blind person they will be adopted, often by the volunteer handler. The doors of the fuselage close and the familiar rumble of an airplane taxiing begins. The dogs stay in place, seemingly disinterested in the mock flight. And then out go the lights! Video Watch the dogs in action aboard the plane > "Brace! Brace!" shouts a flight attendant. The plane is crash landing. The alarm blares, the cabin jolts from side to side. "Get out! Leave everything!" Everyone must evacuate the plane as quickly as possible, dogs included. One by one, the dogs lead their handlers to safety. Amazingly, not a single dog panics, or even barks. "I noticed a lot of the dogs probably did better than the people. They were very relaxed, business as usual," says Danny Henderson with a laugh while Gilligan stands obediently at her side. "He's been doing great. He's a very smart dog, he's learned very quickly. I think he'll do great." And how did Ludlow, the sensitive "soft dog," do? "He did great," says Bossert. "This is awesome. I may not have a chance to fly with him so for him to just see the cabin environment and know he has to go into a confined space and be calm is good for him." According to Guide Dogs for the Blind, about 10,000 blind people in the United States use guide dogs, and many of them are frequent fliers. "The first time they fly they are like: 'This is a little odd,' " says Aerial Gilbert, who is blind and flies with her German shepherd Splash several times a month. She thinks the training will help the pups become better guide dogs. "Things they learn as a puppy are no big deal. It's harder when they get older." At the helm of the mock 767 is Capt. Robert Mackay. He's in charge of training for United Airlines and still flies regularly. He watches the exercise carefully. He says the odds of a plane crash with a guide dog and human partner on board are rare, but preparing for the unexpected is the name of the game. "Having dogs on board the airplane and blind people on the airplane represent a special challenge for us," he says. "This is all about the 'what if,' risk management, being ready in the unlikely event that this would occur." 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I got your phone message and I don't want to suffer the consequences of not showing up! *smile Gail and Firestone ----- Original Message ----- From: peteer mansell To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:39 PM Subject: [Cagdu] meeting on Sunday This is a friendly reminder. There is a CAGDU meeting on Sunday, March 15, at 6:30pm confrence number: 616-347-8400 pin 184220 See you there! Make sure you bring your guides with you. Peter and Aerie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Cagdu mailing list Cagdu at nfbcal.org https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090315/a8046c52/attachment.html From kenvolonte at comcast.net Sun Mar 15 11:25:39 2009 From: kenvolonte at comcast.net (Ken Volonte) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:25:39 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: CNN: Guide dogs trained to handle plane emergencies References: <906954.38666.bm@omp425.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <98A6C8BBCC834A4B8257A7FE2738AADF@ken5f734aa928e> Times are better than they used to be. I remember when they wouldn't let us on with our dogs if there wasn't a bulkhead seat available. If the flight simulation did anything to educate airline personnel or the puppy raisers, then it's all to the good. Jonathan makes a good point though about our dogs doing guide work on an airplane. There are some emergencies our dogs can't handle or even do anything about. Years ago on a very crowded commuter flight, I missed the ladder and fell fifteen feet down onto the tarmac. That became a short story which I'll share some time. Talk to you tonight. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: tina thomas To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:45 PM Subject: [Cagdu] FW: CNN: Guide dogs trained to handle plane emergencies Subject: CNN: Guide dogs trained to handle plane emergencies Click the link to view the page containing pictures and video. http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/03/12/dogs.on.a.plane/ Guide dogs trained to handle plane emergencies By Jim Spellman CNN DENVER, Colorado (CNN) -- Guide dogs for the blind go everywhere with their human partners, but when their destination is a plane ride away, it's not always so easy. To make the skies a little friendlier, and safer, a pack of guide dogs in training gathered at a United Airlines training facility to take a simulated flight -- a flight with a surprise ending. "The main purpose was to get our dogs used to boarding and deplaning and to getting into a seat and curling up into the space allowed for them," says Danny Henderson, who volunteers raising puppies to become guide dogs for the blind. Henderson volunteers with Have Paws Will Travel, the group that organized the trip to the Denver training facility. At her side is Gilligan, a 10-month-old yellow Labrador retriever puppy. Henderson takes Gilligan everywhere with her: shopping, sporting events, even to church. All the while she is preparing the pup to work as a guide dog by exposing him to all of the experiences a guide dog will have. If Gilligan does well, he will be matched with a blind partner and the pair will go through four to five months of more extensive training on the California campus of Guide Dogs for the Blind, a non-profit that supplies blind people with guide dogs free of charge. Inside the United Airlines facility sits a real fuselage from a Boeing 767 jet. About 20 dogs and their handlers file in, the dogs nestling under the seats. Gilligan is curious at first but quickly loses interest in his new environment and rests his head on the floor with a sigh. A few aisles up sits Annette Bossert and her year-old dog Ludlow. He nervously looks from side to side between Bossert's legs, not too sure what's going on. "He's what we call a 'soft dog' in that he is very sensitive to certain environments," says Bossert. "He might react a little bit more than some dogs, showing a little bit of fear, a little bit of anxiety." If a dog is too easily spooked it might be "career changed," and instead of moving on to work with a blind person they will be adopted, often by the volunteer handler. The doors of the fuselage close and the familiar rumble of an airplane taxiing begins. The dogs stay in place, seemingly disinterested in the mock flight. And then out go the lights! Video Watch the dogs in action aboard the plane ? "Brace! Brace!" shouts a flight attendant. The plane is crash landing. The alarm blares, the cabin jolts from side to side. "Get out! Leave everything!" Everyone must evacuate the plane as quickly as possible, dogs included. One by one, the dogs lead their handlers to safety. Amazingly, not a single dog panics, or even barks. "I noticed a lot of the dogs probably did better than the people. They were very relaxed, business as usual," says Danny Henderson with a laugh while Gilligan stands obediently at her side. "He's been doing great. He's a very smart dog, he's learned very quickly. I think he'll do great." And how did Ludlow, the sensitive "soft dog," do? "He did great," says Bossert. "This is awesome. I may not have a chance to fly with him so for him to just see the cabin environment and know he has to go into a confined space and be calm is good for him." According to Guide Dogs for the Blind, about 10,000 blind people in the United States use guide dogs, and many of them are frequent fliers. "The first time they fly they are like: 'This is a little odd,' " says Aerial Gilbert, who is blind and flies with her German shepherd Splash several times a month. She thinks the training will help the pups become better guide dogs. "Things they learn as a puppy are no big deal. It's harder when they get older." At the helm of the mock 767 is Capt. Robert Mackay. He's in charge of training for United Airlines and still flies regularly. He watches the exercise carefully. He says the odds of a plane crash with a guide dog and human partner on board are rare, but preparing for the unexpected is the name of the game. "Having dogs on board the airplane and blind people on the airplane represent a special challenge for us," he says. "This is all about the 'what if,' risk management, being ready in the unlikely event that this would occur." 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To anyone that knows anything about guide dogs, this quote is a complete falsehood. One, these dogs are not even yet in training. They have no idea what guide work is. Second, and more importantly, for anyone who has ever been on a plane, you know that isle ways on airplanes are not wide enough for guide work. I don't care how little your dog might be. "Having dogs on board the airplane and blind people on the airplane represent a special challenge for us," he says. I can think of little that could be more insulting about this process. Blind people have long been second class passengers on airplanes. This quote exemplifies the rampant custodialism that exists throughout the airline industry. I wish the school would have had an opportunity to do some re-education. If not, perhaps a formal response from CAGDU could help? I'm interested in hearing others thoughts. Best- Jonathan Jonathan T. Lyens MPA Email: jonathan at lyens.com Fax: (321) 256-8896 Skype: jlyens ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of tina thomas Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:46 PM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] FW: CNN: Guide dogs trained to handle plane emergencies Subject: CNN: Guide dogs trained to handle plane emergencies Click the link to view the page containing pictures and video. http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/03/12/dogs.on.a.plane/ Guide dogs trained to handle plane emergencies By Jim Spellman CNN DENVER, Colorado (CNN) -- Guide dogs for the blind go everywhere with their human partners, but when their destination is a plane ride away, it's not always so easy. To make the skies a little friendlier, and safer, a pack of guide dogs in training gathered at a United Airlines training facility to take a simulated flight -- a flight with a surprise ending. "The main purpose was to get our dogs used to boarding and deplaning and to getting into a seat and curling up into the space allowed for them," says Danny Henderson, who volunteers raising puppies to become guide dogs for the blind. Henderson volunteers with Have Paws Will Travel, the group that organized the trip to the Denver training facility. At her side is Gilligan, a 10-month-old yellow Labrador retriever puppy. Henderson takes Gilligan everywhere with her: shopping, sporting events, even to church. All the while she is preparing the pup to work as a guide dog by exposing him to all of the experiences a guide dog will have. If Gilligan does well, he will be matched with a blind partner and the pair will go through four to five months of more extensive training on the California campus of Guide Dogs for the Blind, a non-profit that supplies blind people with guide dogs free of charge. Inside the United Airlines facility sits a real fuselage from a Boeing 767 jet. About 20 dogs and their handlers file in, the dogs nestling under the seats. Gilligan is curious at first but quickly loses interest in his new environment and rests his head on the floor with a sigh. A few aisles up sits Annette Bossert and her year-old dog Ludlow. He nervously looks from side to side between Bossert's legs, not too sure what's going on. "He's what we call a 'soft dog' in that he is very sensitive to certain environments," says Bossert. "He might react a little bit more than some dogs, showing a little bit of fear, a little bit of anxiety." If a dog is too easily spooked it might be "career changed," and instead of moving on to work with a blind person they will be adopted, often by the volunteer handler. The doors of the fuselage close and the familiar rumble of an airplane taxiing begins. The dogs stay in place, seemingly disinterested in the mock flight. And then out go the lights! Video Watch the dogs in action aboard the plane ? "Brace! Brace!" shouts a flight attendant. The plane is crash landing. The alarm blares, the cabin jolts from side to side. "Get out! Leave everything!" Everyone must evacuate the plane as quickly as possible, dogs included. One by one, the dogs lead their handlers to safety. Amazingly, not a single dog panics, or even barks. "I noticed a lot of the dogs probably did better than the people. They were very relaxed, business as usual," says Danny Henderson with a laugh while Gilligan stands obediently at her side. "He's been doing great. He's a very smart dog, he's learned very quickly. I think he'll do great." And how did Ludlow, the sensitive "soft dog," do? "He did great," says Bossert. "This is awesome. I may not have a chance to fly with him so for him to just see the cabin environment and know he has to go into a confined space and be calm is good for him." According to Guide Dogs for the Blind, about 10,000 blind people in the United States use guide dogs, and many of them are frequent fliers. "The first time they fly they are like: 'This is a little odd,' " says Aerial Gilbert, who is blind and flies with her German shepherd Splash several times a month. She thinks the training will help the pups become better guide dogs. "Things they learn as a puppy are no big deal. It's harder when they get older." At the helm of the mock 767 is Capt. Robert Mackay. He's in charge of training for United Airlines and still flies regularly. He watches the exercise carefully. He says the odds of a plane crash with a guide dog and human partner on board are rare, but preparing for the unexpected is the name of the game. "Having dogs on board the airplane and blind people on the airplane represent a special challenge for us," he says. "This is all about the 'what if,' risk management, being ready in the unlikely event that this would occur." All About Dogs . Air Travel Find this article at: http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/03/12/dogs.on..a.plane C 2008 Cable News Network __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages For guide dog handlers assisting guide dog handlers with advocacy/education-- visit: www.gdui.org or www.nfb-nagdu.org Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity Visit Your Group Give Back Yahoo! for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . __,_._,___ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.10/1996 - Release Date: 3/11/2009 8:42 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. 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California This Site Go Search CA.GOV | Welcome to the Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind List of 8 items Home Consumers Licensees Apprentices Resources Laws and Regulations About Us Contact Us list end Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind QUICK HITS List of 8 items ??Board Meetings ??Decisions Pending and Opportunities for Public Participation ??Frequently Asked Questions ??Laws and Regulations ??License Lookup ??Join Our E-Mailing List ??Press Releases/Multimedia ??Department of Consumer Affairs list end Disability logo Meeting Agenda STATE BOARD OF GUIDE DOGS FOR THE BLIND MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA Printer Friendly Version of the Meeting Agenda Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:00 ? Noon Or until completion of business Guide Dogs of America 13445 Glenoaks Boulevard Sylmar, CA 91342 (818) 833-6453 1625 N. 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Business and Professions Code Section 7210.7 (In-Home Training) * To allow schools to provide in-home training regardless of the guide dog users' experience and even to first time users * Delete the requirement which allows in-home training only for special circumstances * Reconciliation regarding out-of-state practitioners ? to clarify the statute to allow Board licensed out-of-state instructors to provide in-home training in the state of California and to clarify that out-of-state instructors need not be employed with a Board licensed guide dog school ? Additional Code Section Relating to Definition of Professional Competence, Negligence or Appropriate Professional Conduct 4. Agenda Items for the Next Meeting ? (All) 5. Public Comment on Items Not on the Agenda 6. Adjournment list end Back to Top | Help | Contact Us | Get Acrobat | Disclaimer Conditions of Use | Privacy Policy Copyright ? 2009 State of California "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 3/16/2009 7:04 AM From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 16 11:47:14 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:47:14 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: Practice Task Force Meeting Message-ID: <200903161914.n2GJE6pD011763@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder -----Original Message----- From: Guide Dog Board [mailto:guidedogboard at dca.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:05 AM To: tinadt at sbcglobal.net Subject: Practice Task Force Meeting The Practice Task Force will meet on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 (10:00 AM - Noon). Task Force members will also participate by phone. 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Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 3/16/2009 7:04 AM From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 16 11:48:12 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:48:12 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: Article: See Spot support Message-ID: <200903161915.n2GJF5nN022823@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder -----Original Message----- From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of craig.borne at dot.gov Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:05 AM To: nagdu at nfbnet.org Subject: [nagdu] Article: See Spot support See Spot support Emotional support dogs may draw ridicule but they're catching on BY COLIN RIGLEY thumb/slo scene-emo dog0 AT THE HIP Sachi Bobge, 21, takes her dog Koda everywhere for emotional support. PHOTO BY STEVE E. MILLER Koda's drooping jowls flapped and sputtered when he sneezed, sending spittles of drool and snot into the air. "Excuse you," his owner Sachi Bobge said before wiping his snout with her sweater sleeve. Bobge takes Koda everywhere, including classes at Cuesta College. The dog, a 2-year-old boxer, is more than a pet to Bobge, though his job is an unusual one. Some dogs help the blind. Some dogs help the deaf. Koda's purpose is less obvious: He is an emotional support dog, which is exactly as it sounds. So, what are the requirements of the job? Basically, any animal can be emotionally supportive. Such unusual choices as lizards, monkeys, and hamsters are among a broad range of emotional support animals. One online forum even referred to a supportive miniature horse. "I understand where people are coming [from]," Bobge said. "It does sound kind of silly." Koda's job isn't silly to Bobge, though. Koda is Bobge's constant companion, like a seeing-eye dog. Unlike a seeing-eye dog, however, Koda is doing his job when he's simply well-behaved in public and occasionally rests a sympathetic head in Bobge's lap. It's a relatively new idea in the field of assistance animals. After the advent of seeing-eye dogs in the 1920s, animals were used to help people with such disabilities as paralysis and epilepsy. Dogs and other emotional support animals became somewhat common about 10 years ago, rising in popularity over the past five years. By court definition, there's a difference between support dogs and service dogs. A service animal "does work or performs tasks for the benefit of a person with a disability." An emotional support animal is "an animal the presence of which ameliorates the effects of a mental or emotional disability." In other words, a service animal helps someone with a physical disability while a support animal caters to people with less tangible disabilities. Bobge falls in the latter category. After suffering losses in her family, coupled with the usual gamut of teenage angst, Bobge started to slip. She had trouble graduating from high school and even disappeared, as she describes it, from home for about three months. She said it was Koda who pushed her to move back home. The dog placed his head in her lap and she realized she had to go back. Having Koda around relaxes her, she said. His presence helps her remember daily routines she often forgets. Despite a learning disability her grades improved, she said, and she is more social. "Once I got Koda, he helped me get through everything-all the hardships-and just power through it," she said as Koda sat in his usual position, perched in her lap, as she sat in the grass. Koda has gone through the early stages of service-dog training. He wears the same sort of red vest as do more traditional service dogs, and he is about to enter a more rigorous program. But support dogs and other support animals do not have to be formally trained. Patrick Schwab is a Doctor of Education with the Cuesta College Disabled Students Programs & Services. He estimated there are about six people wandering the campus with emotional support dogs, in addition to those with other service dogs. In fact, the rules for all assistance animals are decidedly nonrestrictive. Although Koda was introduced to Cuesta with a doctor's note and county-issued license, those weren't requirements. "Kind of as it sits now with our regulations with ADA, we don't have a way to say that's a good [animal] and that's an inappropriate one," Schwab said. The Americans with Disabilities Act essentially prevents anyone from questioning whether someone really needs an assistance animal, said Eric Anderson of SLO County Animal Services. Although his office uses some discretion before issuing a state-approved assistance tag, nearly anyone willing to sign an affidavit can be approved. "There really is very little in the way of formal requirements on this," Anderson said. The system is undoubtedly susceptible to abuse. Bobge said there are even websites that supply the red assistance-dog vests. But the rules could change. Recent chatter in Washington, D.C., has led some to believe the ADA standards may become more stringent. According to a disability-focused newsletter Schwab provided, there nearly was a change in the definition of assistance animals. That new language came from an early interpretation of the ADA Amendment Act of 2008, but has been delayed, and possibly derailed, under the Obama Administration. For his part, Schwab said he believed the proposed rules would be overly restrictive. And Bobge worried they could make it harder for people without an easily identifiable condition to obtain a support animal. Currently a doctor's note is helpful in getting county approval, but a note is not mandatory. Support animals do help, according to Dr. Terri Quinn, a SLO-based private practice psychologist. Quinn said she has recommended support animals, usually dogs, to several of her patients. Generally, support animals are best suited for people with severe anxiety, depression, or agoraphobia, she said. Animals can simply help some people go outside, she said. "They wouldn't function nearly as well without it." For people with support animals, the biggest challenge tends to be perceptions, Bobge said. It's hard to look at Bobge and argue she needs Koda's constant companionship. She seems well adjusted, but that's the point, she said. "I'm not able to live a normal life unless I have my dog with me." Support Staff Writer Colin Rigley at crigley at newtimesslo.com. 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Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 3/16/2009 7:04 AM From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 16 11:50:39 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:50:39 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: Disabled residents seek service-dog awareness (3/13) Message-ID: <200903161917.n2GJHV7T005846@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Subject: Disabled residents seek service-dog awareness (3/13) This is from http://www.ktvz.com/Global/story.asp?S=10004722 , just in case you are inclined to comment. Craig Disabled residents seek service-dog awareness (3/13) 2:46 James Darcy says his faithful service companion, Ollie, isn't just a pet, but a key to his ability to live a full life James Darcy says his faithful service companion, Ollie, isn't just a pet, but a key to his ability to live a full life wnsz_20 frame Central Oregon Builder's Association wnsz_20 frame end Blind resident agrees: They have right to be where people are - without proof By Nina Mehlhaf, KTVZ.COM A Bend veteran says he wants to bring awareness to service dogs after he and his dog were asked to leave a store recently. James Darcy said Friday that a week ago, he encountered a store manager who didn't want the dog there and called the police on the two. But it's not this specific example Darcy wants people to hear. It's more of an awareness he says Bend needs about everything disability-related. "I depend on him, physically and emotionally, " says Darcy, who's been together with his service dog, Ollie, for four years. The veteran fell off construction scaffolding 18 years ago, resulting in major injuries with his back, hip and leg. Ollie, a certified service dog, helps him get around and provides stability if he falls. "He's trained to help me get up," Darcy said, "and he's actually been an anchor point and laid there and let me drag myself to a cell phone when I went down once and was semi-paralyzed." Darcy is unemployed and shops at discount stores to get by. But last Friday, at one of his regular stops, "I had seen a lady coming down the aisle, and being as Ollie weighs about 100 pounds, I was trying to get him out of the way so he wasn't blocking, which he wasn't." "The next thing I know is, we're involved in another issue involving my animal." Darcy even showed the employee, whom he had never seen before, his service dog certificate and doctor's note - that by the federal Americans with Disabilities Act, he does not have to do - but that didn't satisfy her. The police were called, but he says they only gave him an incident number. "For one, just stand back and watch." That's how Brady Remsen says you can tell if a dog is a service animal versus a pet. A volunteer with Central Oregon Resources for Independent Living, or CORIL, Remsen is blind and uses his dog, Glenn, for his guide. He's had similar run-ins, and says merchants need to know the law that these dogs, marked with patches or not, are to be allowed anywhere a regular customer is, with no extra fees and no hassling. "I'm tired of this small excuse. We are a larger city now," said Remsen. "We are coming along, but we have a ways to go. The whole guide dog thing is a part of the ADA - it's just an awareness." James Darcy says he wants to file an ADA complaint with the Department of Justice. But both men say, maybe the better route is just simple education. NewsChannel 21 chose not to identify the store were this allegedly happened until it is contacted by James Darcy or an ADA organization. You can learn more about guide dog awareness by going to the Website: http://www.ada.gov/svcanimb.htm. AddThis Social Bookmark Button 6 votes Comments Terms of Use: We welcome your participation in our community. Please keep your comments civil and on point. You must be at least 13 years of age to post comments. By submitting a comment, you agree to these Terms of Service Leave a comment Controls (Powered by JS-Kit) Guest Monday, March 16, 2009 How sad that the Z could tell a story on a man who causes trouble everywhere he goes. I have numerous stories i could tell you about him. Like this comment? [ yes ] [ no] Mark as offensive [reply] Guest Monday, March 16, 2009 JD is on meth again...... Like this comment? [ yes ] [ no] Mark as offensive [reply] Guest Monday, March 16, 2009 Jd you have had your day in the light again. You also use your veteran status everywhere you go. Yes, you called the police. Check the police log. Quit harassing people and businesses for doing there jobs Like this comment? [ yes ] [ no] Mark as offensive [reply] See all comments wnsz_49 frame SPONSORED LINKS Colon Cleanse - Warning Don't Try Colon Cleansing Products Until You've Seen This. ColonReview.com "My Wrinkles Disappeared" See how this Mom combined 2 products to get rid of her wrinkles. nancyskinsuccess.com Top 3 Roofing Contractors Free Quotes From Contractors Pick The Lowest Roofing Bid! calFinder.com/Roofingl-Contractors My Wrinkles Melted Away Learn How a Mom Combined 2 Products to Get Rid of Her Wrinkles Forever HowtoFixYourWrinkles.com Hot Stock Alert - EVSO Solar Power Your Portfolio With Evolution Solar. 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Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 3/16/2009 7:04 AM From kenvolonte at comcast.net Wed Mar 18 02:02:29 2009 From: kenvolonte at comcast.net (Ken Volonte) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:02:29 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] cagdu paw-a-thon Message-ID: <0AF76A7411C246D1889304CF96F87664@ken5f734aa928e> Hi Jonathan. As you know, Juliet has asked me to coordinate paw-a-thons on May 16. I'd like you to take the San Francisco area if you would. Juliet's working in San Diego, I'm working in Stockton and Robert is covering the Los Angeles area. We've established routes, contacted the police for their input, arranged for bottled water and snacks. If you have any questions, e-mail me or call me at 209-464-6766. Thanks. Ken From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 19 16:20:21 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:20:21 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: The disabled fret new service-animal law Rights Message-ID: <200903192320.n2JNKT5f026183@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Subject: The disabled fret new service-animal law Rights The disabled fret new service-animal law Rights SLC advocate says confusion is 'biggest concern.' By Julia Lyon The Salt Lake Tribune Updated: 03/11/2009 10:51:37 AM MDT The smell of raw meat or the chaos of Wal-Mart can launch Edward Carey back to a time when saving soldiers' lives in Iraq was his job. Now the former combat medic is home and Lexi, a border collie, is trying to save his. A service dog-in-training, the 8-month old black and white puppy yanks the veteran back to reality with a tug on his pants when a panic attack begins. Often, Carey says, she knows one is coming before he does. Plagued by anxiety, Carey hopes a new state law won't stop people like him from healing. Lawmakers have eliminated references to emotional support animals allowed in private and public places, leaving some Utahns with disabilities concerned about what the future may hold for their service. The newly passed bill, SB 173, sponsored by Sen. Margaret Dayton would replace SB 192 (2007), sponsored by Sen. Scott McCoy. or comfort animal. They worry the law will step on the rights of the disabled, preventing them from getting the animal assistance they need. "Our biggest concern is the confusion it's going to cause," said Alison Smith, an advocate at the Disability Law Center in Salt Lake City, noting that "service animal" under the federal Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) is broadly defined. Which animals are permitted and where they can go may leave their owners and businesses puzzled, she said. Emotional support animals had been broadly defined as one identified by a mental health therapist and needed in a specific location to address a mental health issue. Others see the new law as potentially exclusive, eliminating a disabled person's ability to take their animal out in public depending on its technical status. "What the state is doing is they're trying to usurp a federal law, which is illegal," said Alan Rawley, a former public health inspector who lives in Bountiful. But one specialist says the new law now just restates what's in the ADA. The prior law had been too broad and become abused, critics say. "I think we have gotten out of control with allowing emotional support animals," said Linda Robinson, executive director of Gateway to Canine Partnerships, which teaches people to train their service dogs. "As much as I love cats ... I don't think a cat can be trained to go in public with you. I don't think a rabbit can be trained to be a service animal." Trained service animals that perform tasks and emotional support animals that soothe and comfort are different, said Mary Ann Cowen, the Salt Lake County ADA coordinator. "A lot of these people who claim they're going to be discriminated against ... they probably have the wrong name on their service animal," she said. People like Carey would still be permitted to go out and about with their animal because the dog helps mitigate his Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, Cowen said. That would be good news for the veteran. "I now go everywhere with a battle buddy," he said. "She keeps me in the here and now." jlyon at sltrib.com Source: http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_11881348 Ginger Bennett Kutsch Morristown, NJ _______________________________________________ nagdu mailing list nagdu at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/tinadt%40sbcglobal.ne t No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2009 - Release Date: 3/18/2009 7:17 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.20/2012 - Release Date: 3/19/2009 12:26 PM From kenvolonte at comcast.net Fri Mar 20 06:45:21 2009 From: kenvolonte at comcast.net (Ken Volonte) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:45:21 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: The disabled fret new service-animal law Rights References: <200903192320.n2JNKT5f026183@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Message-ID: It all has to do with defining what the dog does. In the case of Mr. Carey, his dog Lexi performs a specific task and is in absolute control. We all know what this new law was meant to address; the "comfort dog" who is just there: jumping at our guides, barking and growling in the theater and making life miserable for everybody all because an anxious person would rather inflict their rotten dog on the public than get medical treatment for the underlying cause of the anxiety. "Why should I subject my body to drugs when I have sweet little Nitro here. She wouldn't hurt a fly." Nitro has a comment too. "Gurrrrr, rasp and flash of teeth, gurrrrrr." The people with comfort dogs are the same people who say, "My grand son does the same thing and he walks with a cane. Why are you so special"? ----- Original Message ----- From: "tina thomas " To: Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:20 PM Subject: [Cagdu] FW: The disabled fret new service-animal law Rights > Subject: The disabled fret new service-animal law Rights > > The disabled fret new service-animal law Rights SLC advocate says > confusion > is 'biggest concern.' > By Julia Lyon > The Salt Lake Tribune > Updated: 03/11/2009 10:51:37 AM MDT > > The smell of raw meat or the chaos of Wal-Mart can launch Edward Carey > back > to a time when saving soldiers' lives in Iraq was his job. Now the former > combat medic is home and Lexi, a border collie, is trying to save his. > > A service dog-in-training, the 8-month old black and white puppy yanks the > veteran back to reality with a tug on his pants when a panic attack > begins. > Often, Carey says, she knows one is coming before he does. > > Plagued by anxiety, Carey hopes a new state law won't stop people like him > from healing. > > Lawmakers have eliminated references to emotional support animals allowed > in > private and public places, leaving some Utahns with disabilities concerned > about what the future may hold for their service. > > The newly passed bill, SB 173, sponsored by Sen. Margaret Dayton would > replace SB 192 (2007), sponsored by Sen. Scott McCoy. > or comfort animal. They worry the law will step on the rights of the > disabled, preventing them from getting the animal assistance they need. > > "Our biggest concern is the confusion it's going to cause," said Alison > Smith, an advocate at the Disability Law Center in Salt Lake City, noting > that "service animal" under the federal Americans with Disabilities Act > (ADA) is broadly defined. > > Which animals are permitted and where they can go may leave their owners > and > businesses puzzled, she said. Emotional support animals had been broadly > defined as one identified by a mental health therapist and needed in a > specific location to address a mental health issue. > > Others see the new law as potentially exclusive, eliminating a disabled > person's ability to take their animal out in public depending on its > technical status. > > "What the state is doing is they're trying to usurp a federal law, which > is > illegal," said Alan Rawley, a former public health inspector who lives in > Bountiful. > > But one specialist says the new law now just restates what's in the ADA. > The > prior law had been too broad and become abused, critics say. > > "I think we have gotten out of control with allowing emotional support > animals," said Linda Robinson, executive director of Gateway to Canine > Partnerships, which teaches people to train their service dogs. "As much > as > I love cats ... I don't think a cat can be trained to go in public with > you. > I don't think a rabbit can be trained to be a service animal." > > Trained service animals that perform tasks and emotional support animals > that soothe and comfort are different, said Mary Ann Cowen, the Salt Lake > County ADA coordinator. > > "A lot of these people who claim they're going to be discriminated against > ... they probably have the wrong name on their service animal," she said. > > People like Carey would still be permitted to go out and about with their > animal because the dog helps mitigate his Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, > Cowen said. > > That would be good news for the veteran. > > "I now go everywhere with a battle buddy," he said. "She keeps me in the > here and now." > > jlyon at sltrib.com > Source: http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_11881348 > > > > Ginger Bennett Kutsch > Morristown, NJ > > > > _______________________________________________ > nagdu mailing list > nagdu at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nagdu: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/tinadt%40sbcglobal.ne > t > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2009 - Release Date: > 3/18/2009 > 7:17 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.20/2012 - Release Date: > 3/19/2009 > 12:26 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > Cagdu mailing list > Cagdu at nfbcal.org > https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu > From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 20 18:47:58 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:47:58 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: Open Letter to Out-of-State Guide Dog Schools Message-ID: <200903210148.n2L1m7dh000938@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder -----Original Message----- From: Guide Dog Board [mailto:guidedogboard at dca.ca.gov] Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:56 PM To: tinadt at sbcglobal.net Subject: Open Letter to Out-of-State Guide Dog Schools Please see below a link to the open letter to all out-of-state guide dog schools from the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. http://www.guidedogboard.ca.gov/forms_pubs/outofstateletter.shtml Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 Market Blvd. S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.21/2014 - Release Date: 3/20/2009 6:59 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.21/2014 - Release Date: 3/20/2009 6:59 AM From julietcody at cox.net Fri Mar 20 18:23:34 2009 From: julietcody at cox.net (Juliett Cody) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:23:34 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] Fw: [Nfbc-info] Fw: myspace petition Message-ID: <6EE2A45A94094C8683972F79CF7FCA12@user1b3ecca35d> ----- Original Message ----- From: "deepa goraya" To: ; "CABS listserve" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: [Nfbc-info] Fw: myspace petition Hello everyone, Can you please forward this petition onto your chapter president? Also, please sign this petition and get others to sign it! Deepa ----- Original Message ----- From: Angela fowler To: dgoraya at ucla.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: FW: myspace petition Deepa, Please forward this to California chapter presidents, state student division presidents, and anyone else you think could help in this matter. Dear affiliate and chapter presidents: I am writing on behalf of the California association of Blind students as chairmen of the CABS social networking committee. We are acting in accordance with the California Affiliate's resolution 2008-02 regarding the accessibility of social networking sites. Attached is a petition to the owners of Myspace.com to work with the NFB to improve the accessibility of their web site to users of screen reading software. Please print out the petition and the accompanying sign-up sheet and collect signatures from chapter members and other interested parties. Once you have collected as many signatures as you can, please mail the petition and sign-up sheet(s) to: Angela Fowler 628 King Avenue Yuba City, CA 95991 If you have any questions, don't hesitate to email me at: fowlers at syix.com We sincerely appreciate your help in this matter. 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Name: myspace petition.doc Type: application/msword Size: 30208 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090320/8d4e0b1b/attachment.doc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Myspace Petition Sign-up Sheet.doc Type: application/msword Size: 40960 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090320/8d4e0b1b/attachment-0001.doc From kenvolonte at comcast.net Sat Mar 21 19:35:07 2009 From: kenvolonte at comcast.net (Ken Volonte) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:35:07 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] letter to sponsers for local dog walk Message-ID: <6E90BE27EE134018BAE31FE0FC67E71B@ken5f734aa928e> As a customer of your establishment for some little time, I'm writing you to ask if you would sponsor me in a three mile march. This march is being put on by the California Association of Guide Dog Users, and will occur on May 16. We are marching to demonstrate to the public that Guide Dogs are an effective mobility tool for quickly getting safely where we need to go. We are having such marches in many cities throughout California from San Diego to Sacramento. We would appreciate you sponsorship, as we need to procure insurance, water stations, and snacks for our marchers. At the end of the march, we might go to a restaurant for a fine brunch, or we might end up at a Cineplex for a movie; but when the march is done, we will all feel a sense of accomplishment and pride, and you will have been a part of history. Your contribution will not end with the march. The California Association of Guide Dog Users advocates tirelessly for the rights of blind people and our guides to be out and and abroad in the world. There are still incidents of guide dogs being denied access to taxi cabs, restaurants, hotels and other places of entertainment. You wouldn't think these problems still exist, but it does. If you can help in this endeavor, please send a check make out to CAGDU, along with your contact information to: National Federation of the Blind of California, 39481 Gallaudet Drive #127, Fremont, CA 94538. If you have any questions about this event or about the work of CAGDU, please contact Ken Volonte, Chairperson at kenvolonte at comcast.net, or you can reach him by phone at 209-464-6766. Thank you for sponsoring me. From julietcody at cox.net Sat Mar 21 20:14:23 2009 From: julietcody at cox.net (Juliett Cody) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:14:23 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] letter to sponsers for local dog walk References: <6E90BE27EE134018BAE31FE0FC67E71B@ken5f734aa928e> Message-ID: <60AD364E2D244737A375DA6732F67C0C@user1b3ecca35d> Hi Ken, Great letter I will use it!! Thank you, JC and M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Volonte" To: "Cagdu" Cc: "Mary Willows" Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: [Cagdu] letter to sponsers for local dog walk > As a customer of your establishment for some little time, I'm writing > you to ask if you would sponsor me in a three mile march. This march is > being put on by the California Association of Guide Dog Users, and will > occur on May 16. > > We are marching to demonstrate to the public that Guide Dogs are an > effective mobility tool for quickly getting safely where we need to go. > > We are having such marches in many cities throughout California from > San > Diego to Sacramento. > > We would appreciate you sponsorship, as we need to procure insurance, > water stations, and snacks for our marchers. > > At the end of the march, we might go to a restaurant for a fine brunch, > or we might end up at a Cineplex for a movie; but when the march is done, > we > will all feel a sense of accomplishment and pride, and you will have been > a > part of history. > > Your contribution will not end with the march. The California > Association of Guide Dog Users advocates tirelessly for the rights of > blind > people and our guides to be out and and abroad in the world. There are > still incidents of guide dogs being denied access to taxi cabs, > restaurants, > hotels and other places of entertainment. You wouldn't think these > problems > still exist, but it does. > > If you can help in this endeavor, please send a check make out to > CAGDU, along with your contact information to: National Federation of the > Blind of California, 39481 Gallaudet Drive #127, Fremont, CA 94538. > > If you have any questions about this event or about the work of CAGDU, > please contact Ken Volonte, Chairperson at kenvolonte at comcast.net, or > you > can reach him by phone at 209-464-6766. Thank you for sponsoring me. > > _______________________________________________ > Cagdu mailing list > Cagdu at nfbcal.org > https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3953 (20090321) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 21 20:17:57 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:17:57 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] letter to sponsers for local dog walk In-Reply-To: <6E90BE27EE134018BAE31FE0FC67E71B@ken5f734aa928e> Message-ID: <466971.32628.bm@omp402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey Ken- This is a great sponsor letter. Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder -----Original Message----- From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Ken Volonte Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:35 PM To: Cagdu Cc: Mary Willows Subject: [Cagdu] letter to sponsers for local dog walk As a customer of your establishment for some little time, I'm writing you to ask if you would sponsor me in a three mile march. This march is being put on by the California Association of Guide Dog Users, and will occur on May 16. We are marching to demonstrate to the public that Guide Dogs are an effective mobility tool for quickly getting safely where we need to go. We are having such marches in many cities throughout California from San Diego to Sacramento. We would appreciate you sponsorship, as we need to procure insurance, water stations, and snacks for our marchers. At the end of the march, we might go to a restaurant for a fine brunch, or we might end up at a Cineplex for a movie; but when the march is done, we will all feel a sense of accomplishment and pride, and you will have been a part of history. Your contribution will not end with the march. The California Association of Guide Dog Users advocates tirelessly for the rights of blind people and our guides to be out and and abroad in the world. There are still incidents of guide dogs being denied access to taxi cabs, restaurants, hotels and other places of entertainment. You wouldn't think these problems still exist, but it does. If you can help in this endeavor, please send a check make out to CAGDU, along with your contact information to: National Federation of the Blind of California, 39481 Gallaudet Drive #127, Fremont, CA 94538. If you have any questions about this event or about the work of CAGDU, please contact Ken Volonte, Chairperson at kenvolonte at comcast.net, or you can reach him by phone at 209-464-6766. Thank you for sponsoring me. _______________________________________________ Cagdu mailing list Cagdu at nfbcal.org https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - Release Date: 3/20/2009 7:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - Release Date: 3/20/2009 7:01 PM From kenvolonte at comcast.net Sun Mar 22 08:35:42 2009 From: kenvolonte at comcast.net (Ken Volonte) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:35:42 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] guide dog poem Message-ID: <72FB1F33E1964CE2AEBAD450B8FA1E84@ken5f734aa928e> Cruel People will watch you with your guide, Walking the streets of Waterbury, As she guides you safely through the town. She's a good dog, Home trained guide, But people will watch you. I know who you are Ms. free American. I saw you. I saw you having your dog do downs and sits. For twenty-eight minutes it went on; Downs and sits with not a word of praise. You even threw in a muzzle slap, Just because you could. I saw you, For the walls are thin at the Capitol Holliday Inn, And I was trying to get to sleep. I'll sleep better now. From kenvolonte at comcast.net Mon Mar 23 11:41:21 2009 From: kenvolonte at comcast.net (Ken Volonte) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:41:21 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] Fw: [oregon-l] California state Board of Guide Dogs over-stepping bounds Message-ID: <6118C4AB3FB04CC0B0E22FC34CC07239@ken5f734aa928e> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cheree Heppe [mailto:cheree at dogsc4me.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:42 AM > To: oregon-l at acb.org > Subject: [oregon-l] California state Board of Guide Dogs over-stepping > bounds > > Cheree Heppe here: > > The portion of a letter appended below circulated via E-mail very recently > And as a concerned consumer, I am responding. > > Many blind consumers feel that having Options for dog guide training > outside > of California represent their best Hope for acquiring a dog guide that can > guide, exhibit proper social Behavior and have good health. Many who are > not > directly tied into the California State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind > believe the Board's function to be superfluous, Stifling, repressive, > controlling and self-serving. Many blind consumers prefer receiving > Services > through non-patronizing, consumer empowering agencies. > > The California State Board of Guide Dogs does not have, but would like to > garner national and yes, international authority to force dog guide > programs > Or individuals coming into California to accept the Board's self-imposed, > Self-administered program requirements. However, there is in the ADA a > functionally based requirement for dog guide work and not a badging > requirement. Basically, this Federal safeguard means that if it walks like > a > duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck and is in all respects > duck-like, then it's a duck, even if the duck doesn't wear the > "Duckie-booo-boo" label from Duckie-boo-boo, Inc. > > The largest program for dog guide provision in California, Guide Dogs for > the Blind and other organizations of the same type with histories of > embezzlement and hostile take over's in their backgrounds, are trying to > pressure other professionals in dog guide circles to support and use > formalized efforts at re-making the dog guide landscape into their > localized > image. The re-making is being formalized through a Master's program in dog > guide training through such well-known schools as San Francisco State with > an Orientation and Mobility degree requirement and all that extra fluff. > > Most blind consumers are excluded from obtaining degrees in these areas. > It's another top down, we serve and you lick it and like it sort of > approach > to blindness services. > > We don't like it. If I obtain a dog guide outside of California or move > into > California with a dog guide from elsewhere, it is none of the California > State Board of Guide Dog for the Blind's business where my dog guide > originates or who helps me with my dog, especially when such help may be > provided by qualified staff from competing dog guide schools outside > California. > > If I prefer to owner train a dog guide and show others how to owner train, > I > have the right under ADA to do this in any state of the U.S. I want to > live > in. I am an American and have owner/trained since 1989. I traveled with a > dog guide since 1970 and decided to owner/train after one of the > California > program's dogs bit me in the face while still at the school for a > correction > I gave the trained dog over a cat distraction. At that point, I decided I > was going to stop being a victim. If I want to avoid a dog selection > bottleneck to knowledgeably select a breed and caliber of dog I prefer, I > have that right as a free citizen, a competent person and the ADA. > > The State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind doesn't defend dog guide > owners > who are injured by negligence from schools within California and doesn't > address internal negligence, as I myself discovered some years ago. I > determined then I would never utilize the California dog guide programs > because of the damage the Guide Dog Board inflicted on the California dog > guide programs, standards and quality. > > Trying to force the rest of the dog guide programs, some who have achieved > world prominence over the past one hundred years, to kowtow to the > California model is asinine. > > If you want to save California money, muzzle this Board's and it's > minions' > bid to bite off more than it can chew and eliminate this Board, which, if > it > ever had one, has out-lived its purpose. > > The following letter which brought this most recent California Board of > Guide Dogs for the Blind activity to my attention circulated via E-mail > very > recently as follows. The headers and date had been removed prior to > forwarding, so I cannot include this information about thisdocument. > > SNIP > > The original text of this letter can be found at: > > etter.shtml > > All grammatical, spelling and typographical errors in the document below > > are those of California state employees, and not my own. I guess they're > > feeling strapped for cash and really want that $100 a year per instructor. > > And boy, I hope this doesn't mean TSE will just hunker down and get one or > > two instructors licensed by California and thereby limit who can come out > > here to do follow-up. Let the games commence. --Carla Department of > > Consumer Affairs Disability logo Letter to out-of-state schools Re: > > Compliance with California State Law Pertaining to Guide Dogs Dear > > Out-of-State School: On July 8, 1947, Governor Earl Warren signed into law > > the Guide Dog Act. This act was established to keep out maverick guide dog > > schools, protect the visually impaired by setting minimum standards of > > training, provide oversight for the disposition of donor funds and > > maintain minimum competency of training for licensed guide dog > > instructors. The purpose of this letter is twofold. First, the Board > > wishes to inform all out-of-state schools the statutes requiring > > compliance with licensure requirements for instruction in the state of > > California. Second, the Board has a process for compliance - namely the > > examination for an instructor license. If a candidate for licensure meets > > the minimum requirements to sit for the examination, they are eligible for > > licensure status. The examination is given twice per year and involves a > > one-day Written Exam and a one-day Oral/Practical Exam. Fingerprints are > > also required before taking the examination. First, California law > > requires a license for the sale or the giving of a guide dog. Business and > > Professions Code section 7210 requires that: It shall be unlawful for any > > person to sell, offer for sale, give, hire or furnish under any other > > arrangement, any guide dog or seeing-eye dog or to engage in the business > > or occupation of training any such dog unless he holds a valid and > > unimpaired license issued pursuant to the provisions of this chapter. > > Second, California law requires guide dog instructors to be licensed. An > > instructor "means a person who instructs blind persons in the use of guide > > dogs or who engages in the business of training, selling, hiring, or > > supplying guide dogs for the blind." California law as set forth in 16 CCR > > section 2284 requires: Anyone instructing a blind person in the use of a > > guide dog must be licensed by the Board, provided, however, that a school > > may employ apprentices to assist in such instruction. No apprentice shall > > act as an instructor except under the direct and immediate supervision of > > a licensed instructor. Last, B&P Code Section 7213 provides that: > > Violation of any provision of this chapter is a misdemeanor. The process > > for obtaining an instructor license begins with an examination. To qualify > > to take the examination, the individual must have the following > > qualifications as set forth in Statute (B&P Code Section 7209) -- which > > states the following: [P [erson to be eligible for examination as an > > instructor must (1) have a knowledge of the special problems of the blind > > and how to teach them, (2) be able to demonstrate by actual blindfold test > > under traffic conditions his ability to train guide dogs with whom a blind > > person would be safe, (3) be suited temperamentally and otherwise to > > instruct blind persons in the use of guide dogs, and, (4) have had at > > least three years actual experience, comprising such number of hours as > > the Board may require, as an instructor, and have handled twenty-two (22) > > man-dog units; or its equivalent, as determined by the Board, as an > > apprentice under a licensed instructor or under an instructor in a school > > satisfactory to the Board. Applicants for the instructor license are > > required to take both a written and practical/oral examination. Applicants > > must provide a 15-30 minute video demonstrating instruction skills. A > > panel of subject matter experts will review the video and evaluate the > > candidate's oral defense of said video. The five steps to licensing are > > available on the Board's Web site. Applicants may also obtain the > > application for examination at > > www.guidedogboard.ca.gov > > The instructor > > licenses are good for one year and are renewed each year thereafter for a > > fee of $100. Along with the fee, an instructor must provide the Board with > > evidence of continuing education (either 8 hours of course/seminar > > attendance or 16 hours of attendance at meetings of guide dog users or > > organizations of the blind). If you have any questions about the laws > > cited above, please feel free to contact me at (916) 574-7825. Thank you. > > Sincerely, ANTONETTE SORRICK Executive Officer, State Board of Guide Dogs > > for the Blind > > END SNIP > > > > From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 24 16:45:37 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:45:37 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: Fact Sheet - Out-of-State Instruction Message-ID: <200903242345.n2ONjsek017369@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder -----Original Message----- From: Guide Dog Board [mailto:guidedogboard at dca.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:35 PM To: tinadt at sbcglobal.net Subject: Fact Sheet - Out-of-State Instruction Please see below a link to the fact sheet on out-of-state instruction from the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. http://www.guidedogboard.ca.gov/forms_pubs/outofstate_fact.shtml Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 Market Blvd. S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.26/2020 - Release Date: 03/24/09 09:19:00 From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Thu Mar 26 11:18:46 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:18:46 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: <3329A021FCF741008C69CCEC93A4BFE8@D77W58B1> References: <3329A021FCF741008C69CCEC93A4BFE8@D77W58B1> Message-ID: Below please find attachments related to a bill, SB 475, for which Antonette Sorrick would like NFBC's support. We should work on framing a response to this bill. Notice that Antonnette offers her letter of support for us to follow. This issue is closely related to the other issue with the board. Thanks. SHANNON L. DILLON From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) Mary: This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be accessed online at http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475&sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful weekend. Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 phone (916) 574-7829 fax Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/ba16e2d6/attachment.html From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Thu Mar 26 11:24:36 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:24:36 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: <3329A021FCF741008C69CCEC93A4BFE8@D77W58B1> References: <3329A021FCF741008C69CCEC93A4BFE8@D77W58B1> Message-ID: Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I meant to be included last time. Don't know what happened before.... SHANNON L. DILLON From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) Mary: This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be accessed online at http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475&sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful weekend. Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 phone (916) 574-7829 fax Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/74f828f7/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Draft NFB Letter of Support annual school renewal legislation 2.27.09.doc Type: application/msword Size: 32768 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/74f828f7/attachment.doc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SB 475 Padilla introduced 2.26.09.doc Type: application/msword Size: 28160 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/74f828f7/attachment-0001.doc From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Thu Mar 26 11:30:47 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:30:47 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] resolution committee Message-ID: Can everyone working on the resolution meet this Sunday at 6:30 to begin work on our resolution? also, can we try to meet using three-way rather than calling an open line? I believe the people working on this resolution include Tina Thomas, Shannon Dillon, Roger Oberholzer, Robert Stigile and Racquel Gomez. Please let me know if you are able to meet this Sunday at 6:30 and I'll try to work out the rest. Thanks. SHANNON L. DILLON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/0f35b3c6/attachment.html From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 26 11:30:43 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:30:43 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200903261831.n2QIV1Gh023236@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Hey Shannon- I was able to view the purposed bill online. However you messages have no attachments. Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:19 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: Re: [Cagdu] SB 475 (Padilla) Below please find attachments related to a bill, SB 475, for which Antonette Sorrick would like NFBC's support. We should work on framing a response to this bill. Notice that Antonnette offers her letter of support for us to follow. This issue is closely related to the other issue with the board. Thanks. SHANNON L. DILLON _____ From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) Mary: This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be accessed online at http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful weekend. Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 phone (916) 574-7829 fax Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/9d970a23/attachment.html From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 26 11:46:53 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <64289.27147.bm@omp408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support by the NFBC. Mary did not write this letter of support? Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I meant to be included last time. Don't know what happened before.... SHANNON L. DILLON _____ From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) Mary: This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be accessed online at http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful weekend. Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 phone (916) 574-7829 fax Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/a2bff366/attachment.html From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 26 11:40:10 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:40:10 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] resolution committee In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200903261907.n2QJ77Z1020794@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Hi Shannon- the meeting time is fine for me. Also, I think that three way is a good way to handle this. Also I will have a report from the guide dog meeting for you all. Juliet, I will be sending you and the rest of the CAGDU board a written report of what went on at the meeting. Also, I did learn that we can attend the meetings via conference call. Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:31 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] resolution committee Can everyone working on the resolution meet this Sunday at 6:30 to begin work on our resolution? also, can we try to meet using three-way rather than calling an open line? I believe the people working on this resolution include Tina Thomas, Shannon Dillon, Roger Oberholzer, Robert Stigile and Racquel Gomez. Please let me know if you are able to meet this Sunday at 6:30 and I'll try to work out the rest. Thanks. SHANNON L. DILLON No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/30266285/attachment.html From kenvolonte at comcast.net Thu Mar 26 14:21:07 2009 From: kenvolonte at comcast.net (Ken Volonte) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:21:07 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] sb475 Message-ID: <89E7A89FF60F436881677BF1AD206110@ken5f734aa928e> Why does the executive director, California State Guide Dog Board think that the NFBC would support this? We've got bigger fish to fry, and any endorsement of this board sends a mixed message. From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Thu Mar 26 14:41:01 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:41:01 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: <64289.27147.bm@omp408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <64289.27147.bm@omp408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft letter written by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping we would sign on to it. SHANNON L. DILLON From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support by the NFBC. Mary did not write this letter of support? Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I meant to be included last time. Don't know what happened before.... SHANNON L. DILLON From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) Mary: This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be accessed online at http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475&sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful weekend. Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 phone (916) 574-7829 fax Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/5cf00ec0/attachment.html From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 26 14:44:59 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9001.61039.bm@omp415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave the board the idea that NFBC would support this bill. Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft letter written by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping we would sign on to it. SHANNON L. DILLON _____ From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support by the NFBC. Mary did not write this letter of support? Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I meant to be included last time. Don't know what happened before.... SHANNON L. DILLON _____ From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) Mary: This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be accessed online at http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful weekend. Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 phone (916) 574-7829 fax Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/48630db3/attachment.html From julietcody at cox.net Thu Mar 26 15:17:19 2009 From: julietcody at cox.net (Juliett Cody) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:17:19 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) References: <64289.27147.bm@omp408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5E69DFB903974A5F993814080DE88614@user1b3ecca35d> Hi Shannon, Are you going to ask Mary? I have not read the letter yet, but I will tonight. However, you know if it is What we discussed at our last meeting, CAGDU will support handlers on this issue . JC and M ----- Original Message ----- From: Shannon L. Dillon To: CAGDU Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft letter written by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping we would sign on to it. SHANNON L. DILLON ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support by the NFBC. Mary did not write this letter of support? Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I meant to be included last time. Don't know what happened before.... SHANNON L. DILLON ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) Mary: This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be accessed online at http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475&sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful weekend. Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 phone (916) 574-7829 fax Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3966 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Cagdu mailing list Cagdu at nfbcal.org https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3966 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/02cac9ff/attachment.html From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Thu Mar 26 15:29:47 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:29:47 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: <9001.61039.bm@omp415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <9001.61039.bm@omp415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think they are sending this kind of draft letters to ACB and other organizations. They are trying to muster support for their board by claiming how important they are for making blind people and their guide dogs safe. SHANNON L. DILLON From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave the board the idea that NFBC would support this bill. Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft letter written by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping we would sign on to it. SHANNON L. DILLON From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support by the NFBC. Mary did not write this letter of support? Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I meant to be included last time. Don't know what happened before.... SHANNON L. DILLON From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) Mary: This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be accessed online at http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475&sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful weekend. Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 phone (916) 574-7829 fax Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/1cce8715/attachment.html From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Thu Mar 26 15:35:09 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:35:09 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] text of draft letter to Padilla in support of SB 475 In-Reply-To: References: <9001.61039.bm@omp415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The Honorable Alex Padilla California State Senate State Capitol, Room 4038 Sacramento, CA 95814 Re: SB 475 (Padilla) - Amendment to Business and Professions Code Section 7200.7 ? Guide Dog School Annual Renewal Payment Dear Senator Padilla: On behalf of National Federation of the Blind, California (NFB, California), I write in support of SB 475. This legislation would give the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind (Board) the statutory authority to amend via regulation the annual school renewal fee for California guide dog schools. Today our economy is in a state of flux. Non-profit institutions such as ours are dependent on the contributions of our donors. As financially vulnerable as our organization is, so too is the budget of the Board. It is imperative that as times are tough, we can rely on the Board to continue licensing and regulating guide dog schools and instructors. With the Board structure in California, we at NFB, California feel fortunate that we can rely on the instructors that serve our members to be competent and ethical and that the schools are financially responsible and maintain a clean and safe campus on which we as consumers can learn. We support the Board and the important services it continues to provide licensed instructors and the visually impaired consumers we represent. Should you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me at (510) 818-1641. Thank you. Sincerely, Mary Willows President, National Federation of the Blind, California cc: State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind SHANNON L. DILLON From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:29:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) I think they are sending this kind of draft letters to ACB and other organizations. They are trying to muster support for their board by claiming how important they are for making blind people and their guide dogs safe. SHANNON L. DILLON From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave the board the idea that NFBC would support this bill. Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft letter written by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping we would sign on to it. SHANNON L. DILLON From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support by the NFBC. Mary did not write this letter of support? Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I meant to be included last time. Don't know what happened before.... SHANNON L. DILLON From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) Mary: This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be accessed online at http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475&sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful weekend. Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 phone (916) 574-7829 fax Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/07e125f9/attachment.html From rstigile at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 26 15:12:27 2009 From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net (Robert Stigile) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Message-ID: <200903262238.n2QMcsOX016129@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Hello, I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support this letter. I would like to know, what the rest of you think. Thanks, Robert Stigile > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "tina thomas " To: Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave the board the >idea that NFBC would support this bill. >Tina >"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of >someone else's." >- Billy Wilder > _____ >From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf >Of Shannon L. Dillon >Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM >To: CAGDU >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft letter written >by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping we would >sign on to it. >SHANNON L. DILLON > _____ >From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net >To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support by the NFBC. >Mary did not write this letter of support? >Tina >"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of >someone else's." >- Billy Wilder > _____ >From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf >Of Shannon L. Dillon >Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM >To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I meant to be >included last time. Don't know what happened before.... >SHANNON L. DILLON > _____ >From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net >To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com >Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) >Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 >----- Original Message ----- >From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov >To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net >Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov >Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM >Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) >Mary: >This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The >Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. >SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal >payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be >accessed online at >http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 >B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen >I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an >amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your >consideration and have a wonderful weekend. >Antonette Sorrick >Executive Officer >State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind >1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 >Sacramento, CA 95834 >(916) 574-7825 phone >(916) 574-7829 fax >Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 >07:12:00 >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 >07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: attachment Type: application/octet-stream Size: 140 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/d67a59b0/attachment.obj From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Thu Mar 26 15:44:59 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: <200903262238.n2QMcsOX016129@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> References: <200903262238.n2QMcsOX016129@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Message-ID: I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not support it. SHANNON L. DILLON > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 > From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > Hello, > I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support this > letter. > I would like to know, what the rest of you think. > Thanks, > > Robert Stigile > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "tina thomas " >To: >Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave > the board the > >idea that NFBC would support this bill. > >Tina > > > >"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > own instead of > >someone else's." > >- Billy Wilder > > > > > > > _____ > > >From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > On Behalf > >Of Shannon L. Dillon > >Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM > >To: CAGDU > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft > letter written > >by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping > we would > >sign on to it. > > >SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > > _____ > > >From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net > >To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support > by the NFBC. > >Mary did not write this letter of support? > >Tina > > >"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > own instead of > >someone else's." > >- Billy Wilder > > > > > > > _____ > > >From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > On Behalf > >Of Shannon L. Dillon > >Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM > >To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I > meant to be > >included last time. Don't know what happened before.... > > >SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > > _____ > > >From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com > >Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) > >Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov > >Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM > >Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >Mary: > > >This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone > today. The > >Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment > legislation. > >SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's > school renewal > >payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill > can be > >accessed online at > >http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 > > =CUR&house= > >B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen > > >I have also attached a word document of the legislation along > with an > >amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you > for your > >consideration and have a wonderful weekend. > > >Antonette Sorrick > >Executive Officer > >State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind > >1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 > >Sacramento, CA 95834 > >(916) 574-7825 phone > >(916) 574-7829 fax > >Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > 03/26/09 > >07:12:00 > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > 03/26/09 > >07:12:00 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/8ad42610/attachment.html From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Thu Mar 26 15:50:11 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:50:11 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] TEXT of SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: References: <200903262238.n2QMcsOX016129@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Message-ID: BILL NUMBER: SB 475 INTRODUCED BILL TEXT INTRODUCED BY Senator Padilla FEBRUARY 26, 2009 An act to amend Section 7200.7 of the Business and ProfessionsCode, relating to guide dogs for the blind. LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST SB 475, as introduced, Padilla. Guide dogs for the blind. Existing law establishes within the Department of Consumer Affairsa State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind that, among others things,has exclusive authority to license schools for the training of guidedogs for the blind and the instruction of blind persons in the useof guide dogs. Existing law requires a fee equal to 0.004 of a school's annual expenses be paid for renewal of a school's license. This bill would specify that the license renewal fee shall be nomore than 0.005 of a school's annual expenses, as determined by theboard by regulation, and would require the fee to be paid by April 30of each year. Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes.State-mandated local program: no. THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS: SECTION 1. Section 7200.7 of the Business and Professions Code isamended to read: 7200.7. A fee equal to 0.004 no more than0.005 of all school expenses incurred in the most recentlyconcluded school calendar year, as specified in the audit requiredunder Section 7217, shall be paid no later than April 30 of eachyear for renewal of a school's school's license pursuant to Section 7200.5. The board shall, byregulation, define the exact amount of the fee. All feescollected pursuant to this section shall be deposited into the GuideDogs for the Blind Fund, which is hereby created. SHANNON L. DILLON From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not support it. SHANNON L. DILLON > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 > From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > Hello, > I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support this > letter. > I would like to know, what the rest of you think. > Thanks, > > Robert Stigile > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "tina thomas " >To: >Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave > the board the > >idea that NFBC would support this bill. > >Tina > > > >"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > own instead of > >someone else's." > >- Billy Wilder > > > > > > > _____ > > >From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > On Behalf > >Of Shannon L. Dillon > >Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM > >To: CAGDU > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft > letter written > >by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping > we would > >sign on to it. > > >SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > > _____ > > >From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net > >To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support > by the NFBC. > >Mary did not write this letter of support? > >Tina > > >"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > own instead of > >someone else's." > >- Billy Wilder > > > > > > > _____ > > >From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > On Behalf > >Of Shannon L. Dillon > >Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM > >To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I > meant to be > >included last time. Don't know what happened before.... > > >SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > > _____ > > >From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com > >Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) > >Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov > >Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM > >Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >Mary: > > >This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone > today. The > >Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment > legislation. > >SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's > school renewal > >payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill > can be > >accessed online at > >http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 > > =CUR&house= > >B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen > > >I have also attached a word document of the legislation along > with an > >amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you > for your > >consideration and have a wonderful weekend. > > >Antonette Sorrick > >Executive Officer > >State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind > >1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 > >Sacramento, CA 95834 > >(916) 574-7825 phone > >(916) 574-7829 fax > >Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > 03/26/09 > >07:12:00 > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > 03/26/09 > >07:12:00 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/e0029461/attachment.html From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Thu Mar 26 16:06:53 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:06:53 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] resolution committee In-Reply-To: <200903261907.n2QJ77Z1020794@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> References: <200903261907.n2QJ77Z1020794@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Message-ID: Tina, I cannot wait to hear what happened at the meeting!!!! I am also glad there is a conference number we can call. That makes the meetings accessible to everyone. Is that number on the board web site? Do you know if it will always be the same number? SHANNON L. DILLON From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:40:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] resolution committee Hi Shannon- the meeting time is fine for me. Also, I think that three way is a good way to handle this. Also I will have a report from the guide dog meeting for you all. Juliet, I will be sending you and the rest of the CAGDU board a written report of what went on at the meeting. Also, I did learn that we can attend the meetings via conference call. Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:31 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] resolution committee Can everyone working on the resolution meet this Sunday at 6:30 to begin work on our resolution? also, can we try to meet using three-way rather than calling an open line? I believe the people working on this resolution include Tina Thomas, Shannon Dillon, Roger Oberholzer, Robert Stigile and Racquel Gomez. Please let me know if you are able to meet this Sunday at 6:30 and I'll try to work out the rest. Thanks. SHANNON L. DILLON No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/c0cbe725/attachment.html From rstigile at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 26 15:49:12 2009 From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net (Robert Stigile) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Message-ID: <200903262315.n2QNFdTg011584@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Hello Shannon, Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that showed a letter from Mary in support of this bill. Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I see. Thanks, Robert Stigile > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Shannon L. Dillon" To: CAGDU Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not support it. >SHANNON L. DILLON >> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 >> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net >> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >> Hello, >> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support this >> letter. >> I would like to know, what the rest of you think. >> Thanks, >> Robert Stigile >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "tina thomas " >>To: >>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave >> the board the >>>idea that NFBC would support this bill. >>>Tina >>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your >> own instead of >>>someone else's." >>>- Billy Wilder >>> _____ >>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] >> On Behalf >>>Of Shannon L. Dillon >>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM >>>To: CAGDU >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft >> letter written >>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping >> we would >>>sign on to it. >>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>> _____ >>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net >>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support >> by the NFBC. >>>Mary did not write this letter of support? >>>Tina >>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your >> own instead of >>>someone else's." >>>- Billy Wilder >>> _____ >>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] >> On Behalf >>>Of Shannon L. Dillon >>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM >>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I >> meant to be >>>included last time. Don't know what happened before.... >>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>> _____ >>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net >>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com >>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov >>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net >>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov >>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM >>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>Mary: >>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone >> today. The >>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment >> legislation. >>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's >> school renewal >>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill >> can be >>>accessed online at >>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 >>>> =CUR&house= >>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen >>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along >> with an >>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you >> for your >>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend. >>>Antonette Sorrick >>>Executive Officer >>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind >>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 >>>Sacramento, CA 95834 >>>(916) 574-7825 phone >>>(916) 574-7829 fax >>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: >> 03/26/09 >>>07:12:00 >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: >> 03/26/09 >>>07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Network Type: application/octet-stream Size: 140 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/c628415c/attachment.obj From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 26 16:25:56 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:25:56 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <899719.87409.bm@omp423.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That would explain the California council's legislative Director being on the conference call as well. "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:30 PM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) I think they are sending this kind of draft letters to ACB and other organizations. They are trying to muster support for their board by claiming how important they are for making blind people and their guide dogs safe. SHANNON L. DILLON _____ From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave the board the idea that NFBC would support this bill. Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft letter written by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping we would sign on to it. SHANNON L. DILLON _____ From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support by the NFBC. Mary did not write this letter of support? Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I meant to be included last time. Don't know what happened before.... SHANNON L. DILLON _____ From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) Mary: This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be accessed online at http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful weekend. Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 phone (916) 574-7829 fax Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/99ccba05/attachment.html From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 26 16:28:05 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:28:05 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] resolution committee In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <845656.7058.bm@omp417.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Shannon- yes the conference call number is on the website. I don't know if the number is always going to be the same but we shall see next month. "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:07 PM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] resolution committee Tina, I cannot wait to hear what happened at the meeting!!!! I am also glad there is a conference number we can call. That makes the meetings accessible to everyone. Is that number on the board web site? Do you know if it will always be the same number? SHANNON L. DILLON _____ From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:40:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] resolution committee Hi Shannon- the meeting time is fine for me. Also, I think that three way is a good way to handle this. Also I will have a report from the guide dog meeting for you all. Juliet, I will be sending you and the rest of the CAGDU board a written report of what went on at the meeting. Also, I did learn that we can attend the meetings via conference call. Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:31 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] resolution committee Can everyone working on the resolution meet this Sunday at 6:30 to begin work on our resolution? also, can we try to meet using three-way rather than calling an open line? I believe the people working on this resolution include Tina Thomas, Shannon Dillon, Roger Oberholzer, Robert Stigile and Racquel Gomez. Please let me know if you are able to meet this Sunday at 6:30 and I'll try to work out the rest. Thanks. SHANNON L. DILLON No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090326/6de2518d/attachment.html From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Fri Mar 27 07:48:09 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: <200903262315.n2QNFdTg011584@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> References: <200903262315.n2QNFdTg011584@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Message-ID: Hi Robert: No, Mary did not write the letter. Antonette, or someone from the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign onto. They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter. I think they must have provided that draft letter like we provide draft letters sometimes to people to make it easier for them to support something. Like the draft letter we provided in support of Fred Schroeder this year. Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter onto to me to share with CAGDU and respond to. She did not support the letter. She said that she has told Antonette that she does not think we can support the Board. I don't know why Mary's name is on the letter. Maybe whoever wrote the draft included it on there. But Mary did not write the letter supporting the board. SHANNON L. DILLON > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700 > From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > Hello Shannon, > Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that showed > a letter from Mary in support of this bill. > Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I > see. > Thanks, > > Robert Stigile > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >To: CAGDU >Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of > statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we > definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not > support it. > > >SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 > >> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >> Hello, > >> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support > this > >> letter. > >> I would like to know, what the rest of you think. > >> Thanks, > > >> Robert Stigile > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "tina thomas " >>>To: >>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 > >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave > >> the board the > >>>idea that NFBC would support this bill. > >>>Tina > > > >>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >> own instead of > >>>someone else's." > >>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>> _____ > > >>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >> On Behalf > >>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM > >>>To: CAGDU > >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft > >> letter written > >>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping > >> we would > >>>sign on to it. > > >>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>> _____ > > >>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net > >>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 > >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support > >> by the NFBC. > >>>Mary did not write this letter of support? > >>>Tina > > >>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >> own instead of > >>>someone else's." > >>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>> _____ > > >>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >> On Behalf > >>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM > >>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I > >> meant to be > >>>included last time. Don't know what happened before.... > > >>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>> _____ > > >>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com > >>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) > >>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 > > > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov > >>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM > >>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>Mary: > > >>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone > >> today. The > >>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment > >> legislation. > >>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's > >> school renewal > >>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill > >> can be > >>>accessed online at > >>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 > >>> >> =CUR&house= > >>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen > > >>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along > >> with an > >>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you > >> for your > >>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend. > > >>>Antonette Sorrick > >>>Executive Officer > >>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind > >>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 > >>>Sacramento, CA 95834 > >>>(916) 574-7825 phone > >>>(916) 574-7829 fax > >>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >> 03/26/09 > >>>07:12:00 > > > > > >>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >> 03/26/09 > >>>07:12:00 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090327/c2350843/attachment.html From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Fri Mar 27 07:52:57 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:52:57 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: <899719.87409.bm@omp423.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <899719.87409.bm@omp423.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, in the list of names on Antonette's e-mails I have seen regarding this issue, she e-mails them to Jeff Thom and Annie Kyser. I think that Annie Kyser is the president of the guide dog user's division in CCB. I don't know who their legislative director is. Maybe Jeff Thom is legislative director for CCB because he is a legislative counsel for California. Anyway, the Board is definitely reaching out to the consumer groups. Anthony Candela's name is on there as well. I think it is interesting that someone in his position at Rehab is supporting this. Maybe he feels like he has to because he is on the Board. SHANNON L. DILLON From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:25:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) That would explain the California council's legislative Director being on the conference call as well. "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:30 PM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) I think they are sending this kind of draft letters to ACB and other organizations. They are trying to muster support for their board by claiming how important they are for making blind people and their guide dogs safe. SHANNON L. DILLON From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave the board the idea that NFBC would support this bill. Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft letter written by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping we would sign on to it. SHANNON L. DILLON From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support by the NFBC. Mary did not write this letter of support? Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I meant to be included last time. Don't know what happened before.... SHANNON L. DILLON From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) Mary: This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be accessed online at http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475&sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful weekend. Antonette Sorrick Executive Officer State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind 1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 Sacramento, CA 95834 (916) 574-7825 phone (916) 574-7829 fax Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090327/891e0db8/attachment.html From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 27 07:58:30 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:58:30 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <950903.41213.bm@omp423.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Shannon- The legislative director for the California council is Frank Wealty. He was on the conference call. Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:53 AM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Yes, in the list of names on Antonette's e-mails I have seen regarding this issue, she e-mails them to Jeff Thom and Annie Kyser. I think that Annie Kyser is the president of the guide dog user's division in CCB. I don't know who their legislative director is. Maybe Jeff Thom is legislative director for CCB because he is a legislative counsel for California. Anyway, the Board is definitely reaching out to the consumer groups. Anthony Candela's name is on there as well. I think it is interesting that someone in his position at Rehab is supporting this. Maybe he feels like he has to because he is on the Board. SHANNON L. DILLON _____ From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:25:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) That would explain the California council's legislative Director being on the conference call as well. "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:30 PM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) I think they are sending this kind of draft letters to ACB and other organizations. They are trying to muster support for their board by claiming how important they are for making blind people and their guide dogs safe. SHANNON L. DILLON _____ From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave the board the idea that NFBC would support this bill. Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft letter written by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping we would sign on to it. SHANNON L. DILLON _____ From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support by the NFBC. Mary did not write this letter of support? Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder _____ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I meant to be included last time. Don't know what happened before.... SHANNON L. DILLON _____ From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) Mary: This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone today. The Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment legislation. SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's school renewal payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill can be accessed online at http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen I have also attached a word document of the legislation along with an amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful weekend. 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URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090327/c73c8206/attachment.html From rstigile at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 27 08:38:22 2009 From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net (Robert Stigile) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:22 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Message-ID: <867162.11436.bm@omp416.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Shannon, I appreciate you letting me know that. I was quite concerned when I saw that letter. Thanks, Robert Stigile > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Shannon L. Dillon" To: CAGDU Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700 >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >Hi Robert: >No, Mary did not write the letter. Antonette, or someone from the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign onto. They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter. I think they must have provided that draft letter like we provide draft letters sometimes to people to make it easier for them to support something. Like the draft letter we provided in support of Fred Schroeder this year. Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter onto to me to share with CAGDU and respond to. She did not support the letter. She said that she has told Antonette that she does not think we can support the Board. I don't know why Mary's name is on the letter. Maybe whoever wrote the draft included it on there. But Mary did not write the letter supporting the board. >SHANNON L. DILLON >> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700 >> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net >> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >> Hello Shannon, >> Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that showed >> a letter from Mary in support of this bill. >> Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I >> see. >> Thanks, >> Robert Stigile >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>To: CAGDU >>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of >> statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we >> definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not >> support it. >>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 >>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net >>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>> Hello, >>>> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support >> this >>>> letter. >>>> I would like to know, what the rest of you think. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Robert Stigile >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "tina thomas " >>>>To: >>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave >>>> the board the >>>>>idea that NFBC would support this bill. >>>>>Tina >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your >>>> own instead of >>>>>someone else's." >>>>>- Billy Wilder >>>>> _____ >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] >>>> On Behalf >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM >>>>>To: CAGDU >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft >>>> letter written >>>>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping >>>> we would >>>>>sign on to it. >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>>> _____ >>>>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support >>>> by the NFBC. >>>>>Mary did not write this letter of support? >>>>>Tina >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your >>>> own instead of >>>>>someone else's." >>>>>- Billy Wilder >>>>> _____ >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] >>>> On Behalf >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I >>>> meant to be >>>>>included last time. Don't know what happened before.... >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>>> _____ >>>>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net >>>>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com >>>>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov >>>>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net >>>>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov >>>>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM >>>>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>Mary: >>>>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone >>>> today. The >>>>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment >>>> legislation. >>>>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's >>>> school renewal >>>>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill >>>> can be >>>>>accessed online at >>>>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 >>>>>>>> =CUR&house= >>>>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen >>>>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along >>>> with an >>>>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you >>>> for your >>>>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend. >>>>>Antonette Sorrick >>>>>Executive Officer >>>>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind >>>>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 >>>>>Sacramento, CA 95834 >>>>>(916) 574-7825 phone >>>>>(916) 574-7829 fax >>>>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: >>>> 03/26/09 >>>>>07:12:00 >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: >>>> 03/26/09 >>>>>07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: attachment Type: application/octet-stream Size: 140 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090327/b673093a/attachment.obj From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Fri Mar 27 10:43:30 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:43:30 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: <867162.11436.bm@omp416.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <867162.11436.bm@omp416.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sorry for the confusion. SHANNON L. DILLON > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:22 -0700 > From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > Hello Shannon, > I appreciate you letting me know that. > I was quite concerned when I saw that letter. > Thanks, > > Robert Stigile > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >To: CAGDU >Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >Hi Robert: > > > > >No, Mary did not write the letter. Antonette, or someone from > the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign > onto. They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter. I > think they must have provided that draft letter like we provide > draft letters sometimes to people to make it easier for them to > support something. Like the draft letter we provided in support > of Fred Schroeder this year. Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter > onto to me to share with CAGDU and respond to. She did not > support the letter. She said that she has told Antonette that > she does not think we can support the Board. I don't know why > Mary's name is on the letter. Maybe whoever wrote the draft > included it on there. But Mary did not write the letter > supporting the board. > > > > >SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700 > >> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >> Hello Shannon, > >> Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that > showed > >> a letter from Mary in support of this bill. > >> Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I > >> see. > >> Thanks, > > >> Robert Stigile > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>>To: CAGDU >>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 > >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of > >> statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we > >> definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not > >> support it. > > >>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 > >>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>> Hello, > >>>> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support > >> this > >>>> letter. > >>>> I would like to know, what the rest of you think. > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> Robert Stigile > > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "tina thomas " >>>>>To: >>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave > >>>> the board the > >>>>>idea that NFBC would support this bill. > >>>>>Tina > > > >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >>>> own instead of > >>>>>someone else's." > >>>>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >>>> On Behalf > >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM > >>>>>To: CAGDU > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft > >>>> letter written > >>>>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping > >>>> we would > >>>>>sign on to it. > > >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support > >>>> by the NFBC. > >>>>>Mary did not write this letter of support? > >>>>>Tina > > >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >>>> own instead of > >>>>>someone else's." > >>>>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >>>> On Behalf > >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM > >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I > >>>> meant to be > >>>>>included last time. Don't know what happened before.... > > >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com > >>>>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) > >>>>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov > >>>>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM > >>>>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Mary: > > >>>>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone > >>>> today. The > >>>>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment > >>>> legislation. > >>>>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's > >>>> school renewal > >>>>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill > >>>> can be > >>>>>accessed online at > >>>>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 > >>>>> >>>> =CUR&house= > >>>>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen > > >>>>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along > >>>> with an > >>>>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you > >>>> for your > >>>>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend. > > >>>>>Antonette Sorrick > >>>>>Executive Officer > >>>>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind > >>>>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 > >>>>>Sacramento, CA 95834 > >>>>>(916) 574-7825 phone > >>>>>(916) 574-7829 fax > >>>>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >>>> 03/26/09 > >>>>>07:12:00 > > > > > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >>>> 03/26/09 > >>>>>07:12:00 > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090327/345cd097/attachment.html From jonathan at lyens.com Fri Mar 27 10:58:06 2009 From: jonathan at lyens.com (Jonathan Lyens) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:58:06 -0400 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi All, I've heard through this discussion that there are people that have "concerns" about the draft letter sent. I'm wondering if examples of where those concerns are in the letter can be pointed out. I think if we have examples of people's concerns, we can have a more in depth discussion. I am not saying how I feel about this letter, because I truly don't know. I have not had a chance to read the legislation it is in support of. But, I'd like to hear colleagues tangible concerns in order to discuss. Respectfully, Jonathan Jonathan T. Lyens MPA Email: jonathan at lyens.com Fax: (321) 256-8896 Skype: jlyens ________________________________ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:44 AM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry for the confusion. SHANNON L. DILLON > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:22 -0700 > From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > Hello Shannon, > I appreciate you letting me know that. > I was quite concerned when I saw that letter. > Thanks, > > Robert Stigile > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >To: CAGDU >Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >Hi Robert: > > > > >No, Mary did not write the letter. Antonette, or someone from > the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign > onto. They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter. I > think they must have provided that draft letter like we provide > draft letters sometimes to people to make it easier for them to > support something. Like the draft letter we provided in support > of Fred Schroeder this year. Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter > onto to me to share with CAGDU and respond to. She did not > support the letter. She said that she has told Antonette that > she does not think we can support the Board. I don't know why > Mary's name is on the letter. Maybe whoever wrote the draft > included it on there. But Mary did not write the letter > supporting the board. > > > > >SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700 > >> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >> Hello Shannon, > >> Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that > showed > >> a letter from Mary in support of this bill. > >> Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I > >> see. > >> Thanks, > > >> Robert Stigile > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>>To: CAGDU >>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 > >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of > >> statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we > >> definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not > >> support it. > > >>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 > >>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>> Hello, > >>>> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support > >> this > >>>> letter. > >>>> I would like to know, what the rest of you think. > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> Robert Stigile > > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "tina thomas " >>>>>To: >>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave > >>>> the board the > >>>>>idea that NFBC would support this bill. > >>>>>Tina > > > >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >>>> own instead of > >>>>>someone else's." > >>>>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >>>> On Behalf > >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM > >>>>>To: CAGDU > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft > >>>> letter written > >>>>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping > >>>> we would > >>>>>sign on to it. > > >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support > >>>> by the NFBC. > >>>>>Mary did not write this letter of support? > >>>>>Tina > > >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >>>> own instead of > >>>>>someone else's." > >>>>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >>>> On Behalf > >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM > >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I > >>>> meant to be > >>>>>included last time. Don't know what happened before.... > > >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com > >>>>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) > >>>>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov > >>>>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM > >>>>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Mary: > > >>>>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone > >>>> today. The > >>>>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment > >>>> legislation. > >>>>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's > >>>> school renewal > >>>>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill > >>>> can be > >>>>>accessed online at > >>>>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 > >>>>> >>>> =CUR&house= > >>>>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen > > >>>>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along > >>>> with an > >>>>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you > >>>> for your > >>>>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend. > > >>>>>Antonette Sorrick > >>>>>Executive Officer > >>>>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind > >>>>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 > >>>>>Sacramento, CA 95834 > >>>>>(916) 574-7825 phone > >>>>>(916) 574-7829 fax > >>>>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >>>> 03/26/09 > >>>>>07:12:00 > > > > > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >>>> 03/26/09 > >>>>>07:12:00 > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090327/9f1c0536/attachment.html From tinadt at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 27 11:08:46 2009 From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas ) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:08:46 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200903271808.n2RI8tfX023489@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> Hello Jonathan, Speaking for myself, I was concerned that our organization NFBC had drafted this letter and had signed on without speaking to the membership. However, it turns out that we did not write this letter and it is a form letter trying to draw support for this bill. Also, it is my understanding that you are the Legislative Coordinator for the NFBC and did you have any knowledge of this bill? Also will you and your committee be discussing this bill sometime in the near future? Tina "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of someone else's." - Billy Wilder -----Original Message----- From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Lyens Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:58 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi All, I've heard through this discussion that there are people that have "concerns" about the draft letter sent. I'm wondering if examples of where those concerns are in the letter can be pointed out. I think if we have examples of people's concerns, we can have a more in depth discussion. I am not saying how I feel about this letter, because I truly don't know. I have not had a chance to read the legislation it is in support of. But, I'd like to hear colleagues tangible concerns in order to discuss. Respectfully, Jonathan Jonathan T. Lyens MPA Email: jonathan at lyens.com Fax: (321) 256-8896 Skype: jlyens ________________________________ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:44 AM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry for the confusion. SHANNON L. DILLON > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:22 -0700 > From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > Hello Shannon, > I appreciate you letting me know that. > I was quite concerned when I saw that letter. > Thanks, > > Robert Stigile > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >To: CAGDU >Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >Hi Robert: > > > > >No, Mary did not write the letter. Antonette, or someone from > the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign onto. > They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter. I think they must > have provided that draft letter like we provide draft letters > sometimes to people to make it easier for them to support something. > Like the draft letter we provided in support of Fred Schroeder this > year. Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter onto to me to share with CAGDU > and respond to. She did not support the letter. She said that she has > told Antonette that she does not think we can support the Board. I > don't know why Mary's name is on the letter. Maybe whoever wrote the > draft included it on there. But Mary did not write the letter > supporting the board. > > > > >SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700 > >> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >> Hello Shannon, > >> Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that > showed > >> a letter from Mary in support of this bill. > >> Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I > >> see. > >> Thanks, > > >> Robert Stigile > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>>To: CAGDU >>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 > >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of > >> statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we > >> definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not > >> support it. > > >>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 > >>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>> Hello, > >>>> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support > >> this > >>>> letter. > >>>> I would like to know, what the rest of you think. > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> Robert Stigile > > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "tina thomas " >>>>>To: >>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave > >>>> the board the > >>>>>idea that NFBC would support this bill. > >>>>>Tina > > > >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >>>> own instead of > >>>>>someone else's." > >>>>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >>>> On Behalf > >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM > >>>>>To: CAGDU > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft > >>>> letter written > >>>>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping > >>>> we would > >>>>>sign on to it. > > >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support > >>>> by the NFBC. > >>>>>Mary did not write this letter of support? > >>>>>Tina > > >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >>>> own instead of > >>>>>someone else's." > >>>>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >>>> On Behalf > >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM > >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I > >>>> meant to be > >>>>>included last time. Don't know what happened before.... > > >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com > >>>>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) > >>>>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov > >>>>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM > >>>>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Mary: > > >>>>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone > >>>> today. The > >>>>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment > >>>> legislation. > >>>>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's > >>>> school renewal > >>>>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill > >>>> can be > >>>>>accessed online at > >>>>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 > >>>>> >>>> =CUR&house= > >>>>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen > > >>>>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along > >>>> with an > >>>>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you > >>>> for your > >>>>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend. > > >>>>>Antonette Sorrick > >>>>>Executive Officer > >>>>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind > >>>>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 > >>>>>Sacramento, CA 95834 > >>>>>(916) 574-7825 phone > >>>>>(916) 574-7829 fax > >>>>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >>>> 03/26/09 > >>>>>07:12:00 > > > > > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >>>> 03/26/09 > >>>>>07:12:00 > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.30/2025 - Release Date: 03/27/09 07:13:00 From rstigile at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 27 11:33:50 2009 From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net (Robert Stigile) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:33:50 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Message-ID: <476322.6178.bm@omp409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Jonathan, My concerns, were that a letter was drafted without us being consulted, but as I have learned, that was not the case. This is a draft letter as Shannon stated, by the Guide Dog board. I do not support it. Thanks, Robert Stigile > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jonathan Lyens" To: Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:58:06 -0400 >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >Hi All, >I've heard through this discussion that there are people that have >"concerns" about the draft letter sent. I'm wondering if examples of >where those concerns are in the letter can be pointed out. I think if we >have examples of people's concerns, we can have a more in depth >discussion. >I am not saying how I feel about this letter, because I truly don't >know. I have not had a chance to read the legislation it is in support >of. But, I'd like to hear colleagues tangible concerns in order to >discuss. >Respectfully, >Jonathan >Jonathan T. Lyens MPA >Email: jonathan at lyens.com >Fax: (321) 256-8896 >Skype: jlyens >________________________________ >From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On >Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon >Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:44 AM >To: CAGDU >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >Sorry for the confusion. >SHANNON L. DILLON >> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:22 -0700 >> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net >> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >> Hello Shannon, >> I appreciate you letting me know that. >> I was quite concerned when I saw that letter. >> Thanks, >> Robert Stigile >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>To: CAGDU >>Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700 >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>Hi Robert: >>>No, Mary did not write the letter. Antonette, or someone from >> the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign >> onto. They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter. I >> think they must have provided that draft letter like we provide >> draft letters sometimes to people to make it easier for them to >> support something. Like the draft letter we provided in support >> of Fred Schroeder this year. Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter >> onto to me to share with CAGDU and respond to. She did not >> support the letter. She said that she has told Antonette that >> she does not think we can support the Board. I don't know why >> Mary's name is on the letter. Maybe whoever wrote the draft >> included it on there. But Mary did not write the letter >> supporting the board. >>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700 >>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net >>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>> Hello Shannon, >>>> Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that >> showed >>>> a letter from Mary in support of this bill. >>>> Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I >>>> see. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Robert Stigile >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>>>To: CAGDU >>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of >>>> statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we >>>> definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not >>>> support it. >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 >>>>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net >>>>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support >>>> this >>>>>> letter. >>>>>> I would like to know, what the rest of you think. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Robert Stigile >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "tina thomas " >>>>>>To: >>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave >>>>>> the board the >>>>>>>idea that NFBC would support this bill. >>>>>>>Tina >>>>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your >>>>>> own instead of >>>>>>>someone else's." >>>>>>>- Billy Wilder >>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] >>>>>> On Behalf >>>>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon >>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM >>>>>>>To: CAGDU >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft >>>>>> letter written >>>>>>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping >>>>>> we would >>>>>>>sign on to it. >>>>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net >>>>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>>>>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support >>>>>> by the NFBC. >>>>>>>Mary did not write this letter of support? >>>>>>>Tina >>>>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your >>>>>> own instead of >>>>>>>someone else's." >>>>>>>- Billy Wilder >>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] >>>>>> On Behalf >>>>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon >>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM >>>>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>>>>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I >>>>>> meant to be >>>>>>>included last time. Don't know what happened before.... >>>>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net >>>>>>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com >>>>>>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov >>>>>>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net >>>>>>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov >>>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM >>>>>>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>Mary: >>>>>>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone >>>>>> today. The >>>>>>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's >>>>>> school renewal >>>>>>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill >>>>>> can be >>>>>>>accessed online at >>>>>>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 >>>>>>>>>>>> =CUR&house= >>>>>>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen >>>>>>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along >>>>>> with an >>>>>>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you >>>>>> for your >>>>>>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend. >>>>>>>Antonette Sorrick >>>>>>>Executive Officer >>>>>>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind >>>>>>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 >>>>>>>Sacramento, CA 95834 >>>>>>>(916) 574-7825 phone >>>>>>>(916) 574-7829 fax >>>>>>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov >>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: >>>>>> 03/26/09 >>>>>>>07:12:00 >>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: >>>>>> 03/26/09 >>>>>>>07:12:00 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: attachment Type: application/octet-stream Size: 140 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090327/8b58de06/attachment.obj From jonathan at lyens.com Fri Mar 27 11:53:35 2009 From: jonathan at lyens.com (Jonathan Lyens) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:53:35 -0400 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: <476322.6178.bm@omp409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Robert, Thanks for the response. I understand that we did not draft this letter. Having these sorts of letters drafted and handed to you to simply sign is standard practice. What I'm curious about is. Is it the letter we do not like, or is it the legislation? If we simply don't like the letter, we are not obligated to keep it. We can throw this letter away and redraft our own. This is just a suggested letter they gave us to make our lives easier. It happens all the time. What I'd like to get at is do we "NFBC or CAGDU) support the legislation on its merits. If so, let's send our own letter. If not, we can send a letter in opposition. Both I feel are important in this process. Weather we agree with the legislation or not, our voice, as the NFBC, needs to be heard in Sacramento. Respectfully, Jonathan Lyens Jonathan T. Lyens MPA Email: jonathan at lyens.com Fax: (321) 256-8896 Skype: jlyens -----Original Message----- From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Robert Stigile Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 11:34 AM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hello Jonathan, My concerns, were that a letter was drafted without us being consulted, but as I have learned, that was not the case. This is a draft letter as Shannon stated, by the Guide Dog board. I do not support it. Thanks, Robert Stigile > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jonathan Lyens" To: Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:58:06 -0400 >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >Hi All, >I've heard through this discussion that there are people that have >"concerns" about the draft letter sent. I'm wondering if examples of >where those concerns are in the letter can be pointed out. I think if we >have examples of people's concerns, we can have a more in depth >discussion. >I am not saying how I feel about this letter, because I truly don't >know. I have not had a chance to read the legislation it is in support >of. But, I'd like to hear colleagues tangible concerns in order to >discuss. >Respectfully, >Jonathan >Jonathan T. Lyens MPA >Email: jonathan at lyens.com >Fax: (321) 256-8896 >Skype: jlyens >________________________________ >From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On >Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon >Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:44 AM >To: CAGDU >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >Sorry for the confusion. >SHANNON L. DILLON >> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:22 -0700 >> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net >> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >> Hello Shannon, >> I appreciate you letting me know that. >> I was quite concerned when I saw that letter. >> Thanks, >> Robert Stigile >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>To: CAGDU >>Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700 >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>Hi Robert: >>>No, Mary did not write the letter. Antonette, or someone from >> the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign >> onto. They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter. I >> think they must have provided that draft letter like we provide >> draft letters sometimes to people to make it easier for them to >> support something. Like the draft letter we provided in support >> of Fred Schroeder this year. Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter >> onto to me to share with CAGDU and respond to. She did not >> support the letter. She said that she has told Antonette that >> she does not think we can support the Board. I don't know why >> Mary's name is on the letter. Maybe whoever wrote the draft >> included it on there. But Mary did not write the letter >> supporting the board. >>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700 >>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net >>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>> Hello Shannon, >>>> Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that >> showed >>>> a letter from Mary in support of this bill. >>>> Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I >>>> see. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Robert Stigile >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>>>To: CAGDU >>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of >>>> statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we >>>> definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not >>>> support it. >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 >>>>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net >>>>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support >>>> this >>>>>> letter. >>>>>> I would like to know, what the rest of you think. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Robert Stigile >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "tina thomas " >>>>>>To: >>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave >>>>>> the board the >>>>>>>idea that NFBC would support this bill. >>>>>>>Tina >>>>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your >>>>>> own instead of >>>>>>>someone else's." >>>>>>>- Billy Wilder >>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] >>>>>> On Behalf >>>>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon >>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM >>>>>>>To: CAGDU >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft >>>>>> letter written >>>>>>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping >>>>>> we would >>>>>>>sign on to it. >>>>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net >>>>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>>>>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support >>>>>> by the NFBC. >>>>>>>Mary did not write this letter of support? >>>>>>>Tina >>>>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your >>>>>> own instead of >>>>>>>someone else's." >>>>>>>- Billy Wilder >>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] >>>>>> On Behalf >>>>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon >>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM >>>>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>>>>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I >>>>>> meant to be >>>>>>>included last time. Don't know what happened before.... >>>>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net >>>>>>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com >>>>>>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov >>>>>>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net >>>>>>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov >>>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM >>>>>>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>Mary: >>>>>>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone >>>>>> today. The >>>>>>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's >>>>>> school renewal >>>>>>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill >>>>>> can be >>>>>>>accessed online at >>>>>>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 >>>>>>>>>>>> =CUR&house= >>>>>>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen >>>>>>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along >>>>>> with an >>>>>>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you >>>>>> for your >>>>>>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend. >>>>>>>Antonette Sorrick >>>>>>>Executive Officer >>>>>>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind >>>>>>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 >>>>>>>Sacramento, CA 95834 >>>>>>>(916) 574-7825 phone >>>>>>>(916) 574-7829 fax >>>>>>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov >>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: >>>>>> 03/26/09 >>>>>>>07:12:00 >>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: >>>>>> 03/26/09 >>>>>>>07:12:00 From kenvolonte at comcast.net Fri Mar 27 12:19:03 2009 From: kenvolonte at comcast.net (Ken Volonte) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:19:03 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) References: Message-ID: The concern I have with the letter ostensibly from Mary is the confusion it was meant to cause. This is a strategy on the part of the guide dog board to divide and conquer. If this were just a question of the licensing fee, I have no problem with that so long as the board understands that its jurisdiction is limited to California schools. This is more than that. This is funneling extorted money to a specific school. If this is something else, then the bill needs to be more clear. A fee by any other name is still a tax. This next point may sound picky, but it's relevant to the argument. The language in the original charter for the Guide Dog Board is wrong. The board was not really set up to deal with "maverick schools", It was set up to deal with fly by night trainers who were charging returning veterans to train guide dogs for them. By the way, there are still trainers who are doing this and the board doesn't seem to care. I gotta go. PS Mr. Lynes, you know exactly what this is about so be a person. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Lyens To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi All, I've heard through this discussion that there are people that have "concerns" about the draft letter sent. I'm wondering if examples of where those concerns are in the letter can be pointed out. I think if we have examples of people's concerns, we can have a more in depth discussion. I am not saying how I feel about this letter, because I truly don't know. I have not had a chance to read the legislation it is in support of. But, I'd like to hear colleagues tangible concerns in order to discuss. Respectfully, Jonathan Jonathan T. Lyens MPA Email: jonathan at lyens.com Fax: (321) 256-8896 Skype: jlyens ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:44 AM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry for the confusion. SHANNON L. DILLON > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:22 -0700 > From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > Hello Shannon, > I appreciate you letting me know that. > I was quite concerned when I saw that letter. > Thanks, > > Robert Stigile > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >To: CAGDU >Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >Hi Robert: > > > > >No, Mary did not write the letter. Antonette, or someone from > the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign > onto. They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter. I > think they must have provided that draft letter like we provide > draft letters sometimes to people to make it easier for them to > support something. Like the draft letter we provided in support > of Fred Schroeder this year. Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter > onto to me to share with CAGDU and respond to. She did not > support the letter. She said that she has told Antonette that > she does not think we can support the Board. I don't know why > Mary's name is on the letter. Maybe whoever wrote the draft > included it on there. But Mary did not write the letter > supporting the board. > > > > >SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700 > >> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >> Hello Shannon, > >> Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that > showed > >> a letter from Mary in support of this bill. > >> Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I > >> see. > >> Thanks, > > >> Robert Stigile > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>>To: CAGDU >>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 > >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of > >> statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we > >> definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not > >> support it. > > >>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 > >>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>> Hello, > >>>> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support > >> this > >>>> letter. > >>>> I would like to know, what the rest of you think. > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> Robert Stigile > > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "tina thomas " >>>>>To: >>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave > >>>> the board the > >>>>>idea that NFBC would support this bill. > >>>>>Tina > > > >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >>>> own instead of > >>>>>someone else's." > >>>>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >>>> On Behalf > >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM > >>>>>To: CAGDU > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft > >>>> letter written > >>>>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping > >>>> we would > >>>>>sign on to it. > > >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support > >>>> by the NFBC. > >>>>>Mary did not write this letter of support? > >>>>>Tina > > >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >>>> own instead of > >>>>>someone else's." > >>>>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >>>> On Behalf > >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM > >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I > >>>> meant to be > >>>>>included last time. Don't know what happened before.... > > >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com > >>>>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) > >>>>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov > >>>>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM > >>>>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Mary: > > >>>>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone > >>>> today. The > >>>>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment > >>>> legislation. > >>>>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's > >>>> school renewal > >>>>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill > >>>> can be > >>>>>accessed online at > >>>>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 > >>>>> >>>> =CUR&house= > >>>>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen > > >>>>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along > >>>> with an > >>>>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you > >>>> for your > >>>>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend. > > >>>>>Antonette Sorrick > >>>>>Executive Officer > >>>>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind > >>>>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 > >>>>>Sacramento, CA 95834 > >>>>>(916) 574-7825 phone > >>>>>(916) 574-7829 fax > >>>>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >>>> 03/26/09 > >>>>>07:12:00 > > > > > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >>>> 03/26/09 > >>>>>07:12:00 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Cagdu mailing list Cagdu at nfbcal.org https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090327/aba7be2c/attachment.html From rstigile at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 27 16:30:05 2009 From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net (Robert Stigile) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:30:05 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Message-ID: <850114.76733.bm@omp405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Jonathan, It is not just the letter, it is the whole bill. As Ken stated, the Board was origionally created to stop fly by night trainers, if that is what they are going to do, then that is one thing, but they are asking that schools give 5 percent of their budget to the Board, what is that going to be used for? If it is to help those of us who have had our dogs attacked by stray dogs and their owners, that is one thing, but if they are going to sit on their funds and not help anyone, then I feel that the Board should not be in existence any more. I think that we need to call on the board, to allow people to be trained in home by out of state schools, and the board should attack schools like the eye dog foundation which is actually in Arizona but has an office in California. This is my opinion and reason for not liking the letter. Thanks, Robert Stigile > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jonathan Lyens" To: Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:53:35 -0400 >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >Hi Robert, >Thanks for the response. I understand that we did not draft this letter. >Having these sorts of letters drafted and handed to you to simply sign >is standard practice. >What I'm curious about is. Is it the letter we do not like, or is it the >legislation? If we simply don't like the letter, we are not obligated to >keep it. We can throw this letter away and redraft our own. This is just >a suggested letter they gave us to make our lives easier. It happens all >the time. What I'd like to get at is do we "NFBC or CAGDU) support the >legislation on its merits. If so, let's send our own letter. If not, we >can send a letter in opposition. Both I feel are important in this >process. Weather we agree with the legislation or not, our voice, as the >NFBC, needs to be heard in Sacramento. >Respectfully, >Jonathan Lyens >Jonathan T. Lyens MPA >Email: jonathan at lyens.com >Fax: (321) 256-8896 >Skype: jlyens >-----Original Message----- >From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On >Behalf Of Robert Stigile >Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 11:34 AM >To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >Hello Jonathan, >My concerns, were that a letter was drafted without us being >consulted, but as I have learned, that was not the case. >This is a draft letter as Shannon stated, by the Guide Dog board. >I do not support it. >Thanks, >Robert Stigile >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Jonathan Lyens" >To: >Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:58:06 -0400 >>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>Hi All, >>I've heard through this discussion that there are people that >have >>"concerns" about the draft letter sent. I'm wondering if >examples of >>where those concerns are in the letter can be pointed out. I >think if we >>have examples of people's concerns, we can have a more in depth >>discussion. >>I am not saying how I feel about this letter, because I truly >don't >>know. I have not had a chance to read the legislation it is in >support >>of. But, I'd like to hear colleagues tangible concerns in order >to >>discuss. >>Respectfully, >>Jonathan >>Jonathan T. Lyens MPA >>Email: jonathan at lyens.com >>Fax: (321) 256-8896 >>Skype: jlyens >>________________________________ >>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] >On >>Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon >>Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:44 AM >>To: CAGDU >>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>Sorry for the confusion. >>SHANNON L. DILLON >>> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:22 -0700 >>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net >>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>> Hello Shannon, >>> I appreciate you letting me know that. >>> I was quite concerned when I saw that letter. >>> Thanks, >>> Robert Stigile >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>>To: CAGDU >>>Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700 >>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>Hi Robert: >>>>No, Mary did not write the letter. Antonette, or someone from >>> the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign >>> onto. They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter. I >>> think they must have provided that draft letter like we provide >>> draft letters sometimes to people to make it easier for them to >>> support something. Like the draft letter we provided in support >>> of Fred Schroeder this year. Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter >>> onto to me to share with CAGDU and respond to. She did not >>> support the letter. She said that she has told Antonette that >>> she does not think we can support the Board. I don't know why >>> Mary's name is on the letter. Maybe whoever wrote the draft >>> included it on there. But Mary did not write the letter >>> supporting the board. >>>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700 >>>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net >>>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>> Hello Shannon, >>>>> Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that >>> showed >>>>> a letter from Mary in support of this bill. >>>>> Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I >>>>> see. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Robert Stigile >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>>>>To: CAGDU >>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of >>>>> statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we >>>>> definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not >>>>> support it. >>>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 >>>>>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net >>>>>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support >>>>> this >>>>>>> letter. >>>>>>> I would like to know, what the rest of you think. >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Robert Stigile >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: "tina thomas " >>>>>>>To: >>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave >>>>>>> the board the >>>>>>>>idea that NFBC would support this bill. >>>>>>>>Tina >>>>>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your >>>>>>> own instead of >>>>>>>>someone else's." >>>>>>>>- Billy Wilder >>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] >>>>>>> On Behalf >>>>>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon >>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM >>>>>>>>To: CAGDU >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft >>>>>>> letter written >>>>>>>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping >>>>>>> we would >>>>>>>>sign on to it. >>>>>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net >>>>>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>>>>>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support >>>>>>> by the NFBC. >>>>>>>>Mary did not write this letter of support? >>>>>>>>Tina >>>>>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your >>>>>>> own instead of >>>>>>>>someone else's." >>>>>>>>- Billy Wilder >>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] >>>>>>> On Behalf >>>>>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon >>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM >>>>>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org >>>>>>>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I >>>>>>> meant to be >>>>>>>>included last time. Don't know what happened before.... >>>>>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON >>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net >>>>>>>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com >>>>>>>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov >>>>>>>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net >>>>>>>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov >>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM >>>>>>>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) >>>>>>>>Mary: >>>>>>>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone >>>>>>> today. The >>>>>>>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment >>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's >>>>>>> school renewal >>>>>>>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill >>>>>>> can be >>>>>>>>accessed online at >>>>>>>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =CUR&house= >>>>>>>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen >>>>>>>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along >>>>>>> with an >>>>>>>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you >>>>>>> for your >>>>>>>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend. >>>>>>>>Antonette Sorrick >>>>>>>>Executive Officer >>>>>>>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind >>>>>>>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 >>>>>>>>Sacramento, CA 95834 >>>>>>>>(916) 574-7825 phone >>>>>>>>(916) 574-7829 fax >>>>>>>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov >>>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: >>>>>>> 03/26/09 >>>>>>>>07:12:00 >>>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: >>>>>>> 03/26/09 >>>>>>>>07:12:00 >_______________________________________________ >Cagdu mailing list >Cagdu at nfbcal.org >https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu From jonathan at lyens.com Fri Mar 27 16:55:19 2009 From: jonathan at lyens.com (Jonathan Lyens) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:55:19 -0400 Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ken, Thank you for your comments. Your "PS Mr. Lynes, you know exactly what this is about so be a person." I find troubling. All my email was intended to do was to was to encourage some level of discussion. We can't simply have this knee-jerk reaction of "anything government ran we don't like". We as an organization may have very legitimate issues with the Board and/or with this bill. If that is the case, let's put those on the table. Let's make our voices heard on a state-wide level. I don't know what the will of the affiliate is around this issue, but I think we have to have something a bit more articulated than "I don't like it because they're trying to divide and conquer". Whatever our stance is, either in favor or otherwise, let's articulate it well and back it up with facts. That should be the letter we send regarding this bill. If we continue to say a simple no to anything we are confronted with, without any support for what we believe, guess what. Those in power, such as the board, will very soon stop coming to us asking for our opinion. You can tell me to "be a person" as much as you want, but it doesn't detract from the need for the NFBC to take a well crafted stance. I'm happy to help do that, but I need real factually based reasons for our stance. Respectfully, Jonathan Lyens Jonathan T. Lyens MPA Email: jonathan at lyens.com Fax: (321) 256-8896 Skype: jlyens ________________________________ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Ken Volonte Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:19 PM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) The concern I have with the letter ostensibly from Mary is the confusion it was meant to cause. This is a strategy on the part of the guide dog board to divide and conquer. If this were just a question of the licensing fee, I have no problem with that so long as the board understands that its jurisdiction is limited to California schools. This is more than that. This is funneling extorted money to a specific school. If this is something else, then the bill needs to be more clear. A fee by any other name is still a tax. This next point may sound picky, but it's relevant to the argument. The language in the original charter for the Guide Dog Board is wrong. The board was not really set up to deal with "maverick schools", It was set up to deal with fly by night trainers who were charging returning veterans to train guide dogs for them. By the way, there are still trainers who are doing this and the board doesn't seem to care. I gotta go. PS Mr. Lynes, you know exactly what this is about so be a person. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Lyens To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi All, I've heard through this discussion that there are people that have "concerns" about the draft letter sent. I'm wondering if examples of where those concerns are in the letter can be pointed out. I think if we have examples of people's concerns, we can have a more in depth discussion. I am not saying how I feel about this letter, because I truly don't know. I have not had a chance to read the legislation it is in support of. But, I'd like to hear colleagues tangible concerns in order to discuss. Respectfully, Jonathan Jonathan T. Lyens MPA Email: jonathan at lyens.com Fax: (321) 256-8896 Skype: jlyens ________________________________ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:44 AM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry for the confusion. SHANNON L. DILLON > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:22 -0700 > From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > Hello Shannon, > I appreciate you letting me know that. > I was quite concerned when I saw that letter. > Thanks, > > Robert Stigile > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >To: CAGDU >Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >Hi Robert: > > > > >No, Mary did not write the letter. Antonette, or someone from > the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign > onto. They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter. I > think they must have provided that draft letter like we provide > draft letters sometimes to people to make it easier for them to > support something. Like the draft letter we provided in support > of Fred Schroeder this year. Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter > onto to me to share with CAGDU and respond to. She did not > support the letter. She said that she has told Antonette that > she does not think we can support the Board. I don't know why > Mary's name is on the letter. Maybe whoever wrote the draft > included it on there. But Mary did not write the letter > supporting the board. > > > > >SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700 > >> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >> Hello Shannon, > >> Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that > showed > >> a letter from Mary in support of this bill. > >> Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I > >> see. > >> Thanks, > > >> Robert Stigile > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>>To: CAGDU >>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 > >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of > >> statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we > >> definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not > >> support it. > > >>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 > >>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>> Hello, > >>>> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support > >> this > >>>> letter. > >>>> I would like to know, what the rest of you think. > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> Robert Stigile > > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "tina thomas " >>>>>To: >>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave > >>>> the board the > >>>>>idea that NFBC would support this bill. > >>>>>Tina > > > >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >>>> own instead of > >>>>>someone else's." > >>>>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >>>> On Behalf > >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM > >>>>>To: CAGDU > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft > >>>> letter written > >>>>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping > >>>> we would > >>>>>sign on to it. > > >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support > >>>> by the NFBC. > >>>>>Mary did not write this letter of support? > >>>>>Tina > > >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >>>> own instead of > >>>>>someone else's." > >>>>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >>>> On Behalf > >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM > >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I > >>>> meant to be > >>>>>included last time. Don't know what happened before.... > > >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com > >>>>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) > >>>>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov > >>>>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM > >>>>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Mary: > > >>>>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone > >>>> today. The > >>>>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment > >>>> legislation. > >>>>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's > >>>> school renewal > >>>>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill > >>>> can be > >>>>>accessed online at > >>>>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 > >>>>> >>>> =CUR&house= > >>>>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen > > >>>>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along > >>>> with an > >>>>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you > >>>> for your > >>>>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend. > > >>>>>Antonette Sorrick > >>>>>Executive Officer > >>>>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind > >>>>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 > >>>>>Sacramento, CA 95834 > >>>>>(916) 574-7825 phone > >>>>>(916) 574-7829 fax > >>>>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >>>> 03/26/09 > >>>>>07:12:00 > > > > > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >>>> 03/26/09 > >>>>>07:12:00 > > > > > ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Cagdu mailing list Cagdu at nfbcal.org https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090327/d28fa0f9/attachment.html From kenvolonte at comcast.net Sat Mar 28 03:58:28 2009 From: kenvolonte at comcast.net (Ken Volonte) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:58:28 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] permit process Message-ID: <168FB25B72CD41389B5647DA15F675D5@ken5f734aa928e> Hi Julie. Thanks again for the Braille proclamation presented to us last Tuesday. I require your help on another matter. The California Association of Guide Dog Users, (cagdu) is planning to have marches in cities all across Calif. In trying to talk to someone about the process of getting permits, I've run into problems. We want to march from Caldwell Park down to Cancun Restaurant for a brunch. I've tried to contact the police who referred me to Parks and Rec who haven't gotten back to me at all. I have been advised that to put on this event we have to: rent an ambulance and buy specialized insurance from the City of Stockton. We want to do this on May 16th, but I don't know as yet how many marchers we'll have. It's too early in the process. It could be anything from two to fifty, so it's hard to make these calculations as to what we'll need. One thing we'll not need is the closing of streets. We want to march down the sidewalk. We are arranging for marshals to direct people just in case someone drifts wayward, especially at the little jog at Harding. We'll have water stations every five blocks, and the owner of Taste of Britani has said that he would donate cr?pes just in case people need a snack mid march. The president of the National Federation of the Blind of California has told us that Cagdu is covered by the NFBC insurance and so we don't need specialized event insurance. If we do need an ambulance and additional insurance, I'm afraid that the costs of doing this march would be prohibitive. I need some guidance as to what we really need and who I can contact for the necessary permits. Any assistance you can offer would be appreciated. Thanks for taking this under advisement. Ken Volonte, President, San Joaquin Chapter, National Federation of the Blind of California From shannonldillon at hotmail.com Sun Mar 29 18:38:51 2009 From: shannonldillon at hotmail.com (Shannon L. Dillon) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:38:51 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] Meeting at 8:00 on 3/29 Message-ID: Hi Cagduers, can everyone please call into the general conference number at 8:00 for a quick update on the resolution committee. Please call in tonight, 3/29, at 8:00 p.m. The number is 616-347-8400 and the pin is 184220 pound. Thanks. SHANNON L. DILLON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://nfbcal.org/pipermail/cagdu/attachments/20090329/fd78f974/attachment.html From oberholzerr at msn.com Thu Mar 26 16:37:10 2009 From: oberholzerr at msn.com (Roger Oberholzer) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:37:10 -0700 Subject: [Cagdu] Board Issues and Letter Message-ID: Hi Everyone, I am amazed that the board would have the nerve to write such a letter on their behalf and even worse, they put Mary's and the NFBC's reputation on the line. We really need to let Mary know about this and it seems that the board and Antonette have absolutely no scruples of putting people's words in a twisted way to benefit their own purposes. I will call Mary tonight and I will also forward you guys and ladies some stuff that Shannon and I have worked on during the past few months and weeks. This board is ridiculous and there is no money in this state for a board that falsifies statements made by Shannon (during the convention) or anyone else for that matter. 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In reading both Robert and Ken's responses one thing stands out concerning this collection of funds and it's politically a hot issue right now. The NFBC wants "Transparency" as to what these funds are going to specifically be used for. Other issues there to but in the language getting transparency in to the response is a good Idea I think. One thin. The Letter of response I saw by one of the ladies on this list also spells out very clearly why this legislation is not good. I can try to resend it if it passed you by those things happen in email sometimes. Ken, I wanted to point out for your benefit A PR or legisltive person working with a group often will want to get a good sense of the groups feelings on a subject even if he /she is aware of what they are. Maybe on the national level you won't notice it and sometimes in state affiliates you might not because it could be really esy for the administration to just promote legislation without input but Jonathan seems to be really trying to get input, he's not just asking the members to act as it's arms and legs. and we should be careful when telling our leaders to "be a person." That's not uniting. United we stand divided we fall and had that remark been made to you from Jonathan I would have said the same thing. We're on the same team. God Bless: Mike Peterson ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Lyens To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi Ken, Thank you for your comments. Your ?PS Mr. Lynes, you know exactly what this is about so be a person.? I find troubling. All my email was intended to do was to was to encourage some level of discussion. We can?t simply have this knee-jerk reaction of ?anything government ran we don?t like?. We as an organization may have very legitimate issues with the Board and/or with this bill. If that is the case, let?s put those on the table. Let?s make our voices heard on a state-wide level. I don?t know what the will of the affiliate is around this issue, but I think we have to have something a bit more articulated than ?I don?t like it because they?re trying to divide and conquer?. Whatever our stance is, either in favor or otherwise, let?s articulate it well and back it up with facts. That should be the letter we send regarding this bill. If we continue to say a simple no to anything we are confronted with, without any support for what we believe, guess what. Those in power, such as the board, will very soon stop coming to us asking for our opinion. You can tell me to ?be a person? as much as you want, but it doesn?t detract from the need for the NFBC to take a well crafted stance. I?m happy to help do that, but I need real factually based reasons for our stance. Respectfully, Jonathan Lyens Jonathan T. Lyens MPA Email: jonathan at lyens.com Fax: (321) 256-8896 Skype: jlyens ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Ken Volonte Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:19 PM To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) The concern I have with the letter ostensibly from Mary is the confusion it was meant to cause. This is a strategy on the part of the guide dog board to divide and conquer. If this were just a question of the licensing fee, I have no problem with that so long as the board understands that its jurisdiction is limited to California schools. This is more than that. This is funneling extorted money to a specific school. If this is something else, then the bill needs to be more clear. A fee by any other name is still a tax. This next point may sound picky, but it's relevant to the argument. The language in the original charter for the Guide Dog Board is wrong. The board was not really set up to deal with "maverick schools", It was set up to deal with fly by night trainers who were charging returning veterans to train guide dogs for them. By the way, there are still trainers who are doing this and the board doesn't seem to care. I gotta go. PS Mr. Lynes, you know exactly what this is about so be a person. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Lyens To: cagdu at nfbcal.org Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Hi All, I?ve heard through this discussion that there are people that have ?concerns? about the draft letter sent. I?m wondering if examples of where those concerns are in the letter can be pointed out. I think if we have examples of people?s concerns, we can have a more in depth discussion. I am not saying how I feel about this letter, because I truly don?t know. I have not had a chance to read the legislation it is in support of. But, I?d like to hear colleagues tangible concerns in order to discuss. Respectfully, Jonathan Jonathan T. Lyens MPA Email: jonathan at lyens.com Fax: (321) 256-8896 Skype: jlyens ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] On Behalf Of Shannon L. Dillon Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:44 AM To: CAGDU Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) Sorry for the confusion. SHANNON L. DILLON > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:38:22 -0700 > From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > Hello Shannon, > I appreciate you letting me know that. > I was quite concerned when I saw that letter. > Thanks, > > Robert Stigile > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >To: CAGDU >Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:48:09 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >Hi Robert: > > > > >No, Mary did not write the letter. Antonette, or someone from > the board, wrote a draft letter that they wanted the NFB to sign > onto. They contacted Mary about signing onto the letter. I > think they must have provided that draft letter like we provide > draft letters sometimes to people to make it easier for them to > support something. Like the draft letter we provided in support > of Fred Schroeder this year. Anyway, Mary forwarded the letter > onto to me to share with CAGDU and respond to. She did not > support the letter. She said that she has told Antonette that > she does not think we can support the Board. I don't know why > Mary's name is on the letter. Maybe whoever wrote the draft > included it on there. But Mary did not write the letter > supporting the board. > > > > >SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:49:12 -0700 > >> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >> Hello Shannon, > >> Ok, I am confused, I saw a recent post that you sent, that > showed > >> a letter from Mary in support of this bill. > >> Did Mary write that letter, it has her name on it from what I > >> see. > >> Thanks, > > >> Robert Stigile > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Shannon L. Dillon" >>>To: CAGDU >>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:59 -0700 > >>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>I do not support the letter. I think they make a lot of > >> statements that they cannot back up in that letter. I think we > >> definitely need to let Senator Padilla know that we do not > >> support it. > > >>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:12:27 -0700 > >>>> From: rstigile at sbcglobal.net > >>>> To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>> Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>> Hello, > >>>> I am not sure what gave them that idea, but I do not support > >> this > >>>> letter. > >>>> I would like to know, what the rest of you think. > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> Robert Stigile > > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "tina thomas " >>>>>To: >>>>>Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:59 -0700 > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > >>>>>Hey Shannon- Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what gave > >>>> the board the > >>>>>idea that NFBC would support this bill. > >>>>>Tina > > > >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >>>> own instead of > >>>>>someone else's." > >>>>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >>>> On Behalf > >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:41 PM > >>>>>To: CAGDU > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>No, Mary did not write this letter of support. It is a draft > >>>> letter written > >>>>>by the State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind. They were hoping > >>>> we would > >>>>>sign on to it. > > >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>>>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:53 -0700 > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Hi Shannon- I need some clarification on this letter of support > >>>> by the NFBC. > >>>>>Mary did not write this letter of support? > >>>>>Tina > > >>>>>"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your > >>>> own instead of > >>>>>someone else's." > >>>>>- Billy Wilder > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org [mailto:cagdu-bounces at nfbcal.org] > >>>> On Behalf > >>>>>Of Shannon L. Dillon > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:25 AM > >>>>>To: cagdu at nfbcal.org > >>>>>Subject: [Cagdu] FW: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Sorry, everyone, this time the e-mail includes the attachments I > >>>> meant to be > >>>>>included last time. Don't know what happened before.... > > >>>>>SHANNON L. DILLON > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>>From: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>To: shannonldillon at hotmail.com > >>>>>Subject: Fw: SB 475 (Padilla) > >>>>>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:39:34 -0700 > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>>>To: mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>>Cc: bbarragan at lif.org ; acandela at dor.ca.gov > >>>>>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:44 PM > >>>>>Subject: SB 475 (Padilla) > > > >>>>>Mary: > > >>>>>This e-mail is a follow up to the voicemail I left on your phone > >>>> today. The > >>>>>Board has a bill number for its annual school renewal payment > >>>> legislation. > >>>>>SB 475 (Padilla) will set the statutory limit on the Board's > >>>> school renewal > >>>>>payment while setting the exact rate via regulation. The bill > >>>> can be > >>>>>accessed online at > >>>>>http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_475 > >>>>> >>>> =CUR&house= > >>>>>B&site=sen> &sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen > > >>>>>I have also attached a word document of the legislation along > >>>> with an > >>>>>amended draft letter of support from NFB, California. Thank you > >>>> for your > >>>>>consideration and have a wonderful weekend. > > >>>>>Antonette Sorrick > >>>>>Executive Officer > >>>>>State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind > >>>>>1625 North Market Blvd., Suite S-202 > >>>>>Sacramento, CA 95834 > >>>>>(916) 574-7825 phone > >>>>>(916) 574-7829 fax > >>>>>Antonette_Sorrick at dca.ca.gov > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >>>> 03/26/09 > >>>>>07:12:00 > > > > > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>>Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: > >>>> 03/26/09 > >>>>>07:12:00 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Cagdu mailing list Cagdu at nfbcal.org https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Cagdu mailing list Cagdu at nfbcal.org https://www.nfbcal.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/cagdu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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